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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Ryan says they want border security first...no amnesty.

Ryan is lyin'. I haven't watched the interview yet, but previously he said that the Gang of 8 bill isn't an amnesty. An out and out lie. Any legislation that allows the lawbreakers to stay and work here is amnesty--citizenship is just the cherry on top.

The border security first is also a scam. Ryan wants to issue "probationary" legalization to the 12 to 20 million lawbreakers. This essentially stops all enforcement and deportations except for some egregious criminal aliens. Those receiving "probationary" status would be allowed to work, get SSN's, etc. This is the equivalent of the Z visa proposed in the McCain-Kennedy 2007 amnesty bill, which McCain said, like Ryan, that it was not an amnesty because the lawbreakers would have to pay a fine, learn English, and get to the back of the line.

Cantor is getting ready to propose the GOP version of the Dream Act.

50 posted on 02/02/2014 6:57:42 AM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

Just reporting, and that he said it several times.


54 posted on 02/02/2014 7:01:55 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: kabar

Ryan is going to try to scam through amnesty. If that doesn’t work immigration will devolve into another attack on conservatives. “We really wanted amnesty but those nasty teabaggers wouldn’t let us.” We will get from both sides again: the Dems and the RINOs.

We are being set up right now with that principles paper and the kenyan saying he agreed with it. That much is clear to me.


57 posted on 02/02/2014 7:05:24 AM PST by lodi90
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To: kabar

Border security is the same ole canard they have been using for decades. The trouble is, they never define exactly what ‘security’ is.

Recall when GWB promised to enforce border ‘security’ with 6,000 troops. Well, as it turned out, those 6k were cycled in for short-term tours in groups of a few hundred at a time. They were not allowed to even carry weapons and their primary duties were washing Border Control vehicles and doing paperwork.

Border security is about like cutting government spending. We’ll do border security over a period of years, after 30 million get legalized now. We will cut spending over a period of years, after we get a new spending now. Both have been called the Wimpy Burger Scam: I will gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today.


67 posted on 02/02/2014 7:12:05 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: kabar

Another issue is voting. We cannot even get a reasonable measure like Voter ID to be the law of the land because some Leftist judge declares it discriminatory. And even if the law is allowed, it’s based on drivers license/state ID, which is what the Boehner/Ryan bill will give the lawbreakers...

Who thinks they won’t vote when La Raza comes to their front door with “persuasion” and bribes (paid for by democrat donors like George Soros)?

It’s nothing less than PERMANENT democratic party hegemony. The end of the American Republic.


72 posted on 02/02/2014 7:16:17 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: kabar
And that's before the first EO is ever put into effect by the regime!

I had a chat with a top aide of a candidate for Congress last week.I told him about the EO potential for any immigrations bill at all that might get past our side and he was flabbergasted! Had not even considered it!

We have far more intelligent strategists here on FR that those now in office or running for office.It should not be that way. No wonder we lose all the time.

97 posted on 02/02/2014 7:37:03 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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