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A Soldier in the Great War (US Military Allows Beards, etc)
National Review ^
| January 27, 2014
| Kevin Williamson
Posted on 01/27/2014 5:42:54 AM PST by C19fan
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I support not forcing Sikhs to choose to follow their religion and be part of the US military. As Mr. Williamson mentions Sikhs served and serve with distinction under the British and Indian army. They have been killing Muzzies for over 3 centuries.
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posted on
01/27/2014 5:42:54 AM PST
by
C19fan
To: C19fan
Duuuhhhhhhhhh...........
Ever hear of the “gas mask”?
This is doubling down on “stupid”—but there’s a lot of that going around these days.
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posted on
01/27/2014 5:47:50 AM PST
by
Flintlock
( islam is a LIE, mohammed was a CRIMINAL, shira is POISON.)
To: Flintlock
When is the last time a US soldier had to actually use a gas mask for anything but training?
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posted on
01/27/2014 5:50:13 AM PST
by
jospehm20
To: C19fan
The US Navy allowed beards for may years in the 70s and early 80s without much problem. And even more time if in Antarctica.
So what’s the big deal?
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posted on
01/27/2014 5:52:15 AM PST
by
CPOSharky
(If a libtards lips are moving...)
To: C19fan
This will be allowed on a case by case basis
How many will be allowed to wear crosses?
How many will be allowed to wear a yarmulke ?
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posted on
01/27/2014 5:52:18 AM PST
by
maine yankee
(I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
To: C19fan
I have seen multiple examples of US military members blending in with facial hair in Afghanistan. The horror!
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posted on
01/27/2014 5:53:22 AM PST
by
petitfour
To: CPOSharky
Good point. My brother had lots of facial hair while in Antarctica.
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posted on
01/27/2014 5:54:16 AM PST
by
petitfour
To: C19fan
Was Mr. Williamson in the military? The reason I was given that the gas mask needed a seal. I was instructed to put my hand on the canister and exhale then inhale to seal the mask. I asked because in the navy beards were allowed.
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posted on
01/27/2014 5:55:53 AM PST
by
the_daug
To: jospehm20
To: C19fan
“fundamentally change the US”
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posted on
01/27/2014 5:58:04 AM PST
by
Doogle
(USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
To: CPOSharky
fitting a helmet over a turban could be a problem unless the solder wants to look like Marge Simpson
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posted on
01/27/2014 5:59:57 AM PST
by
Doogle
(USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
To: CPOSharky
I don’t remember Moochelle being in the Navy...
To: C19fan
I for one would not mind seeing the higher brass sporting beards ala Robert E Lee or Ulysses S Grant. They would look more like American warriors of yore instead of bureaucrats.
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posted on
01/27/2014 6:03:51 AM PST
by
gusty
To: petitfour
I have too, but I get the feeling it is more an allowance for the theater of operations. Many Afghani tribal leaders wouldn't take a grown man without a beard seriously or so I was told by a friend at work. He just got back from 16 months in Afghanistan.
CC
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posted on
01/27/2014 6:05:26 AM PST
by
Celtic Conservative
(tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
To: gusty
“Beards” are being allowed only to appease the muzzies. Yes, there have been beards allowed in the Navy but they are rare (submariners yes).
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posted on
01/27/2014 6:06:28 AM PST
by
DaveA37
To: jospehm20
We personally had to use them in 1990 in Kuwait. Or detectors kept picking up nerve agents.
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posted on
01/27/2014 6:06:55 AM PST
by
dangerdoc
(I don't think you should be forced to make the same decision I did even if I know I'm right.)
To: C19fan
First off, I don’t like Mr. Williamson’s characterization of people who don’t like this as “rabble”. Keep in mind National Review also thinks John Derbyshire is rabble, too.
Secondly, one of the reasons for not allowing facial hair is not just for practical reasons, but to make everyone as close to being the same as possible. That’s why there are regulations for hair and uniforms. Yes, someone with dreadlocks or a punk-rock mohawk can fire a gun. You want everybody to look like a unified force.
Can you imagine an officer with a beard inspecting troops, and telling a soldier with some beard stubble that he’s a mess, and needs to shave?
If having a beard is ok, then anyone should be allowed to have one no matter their religious beliefs.
What’s next, female Muslim soldiers with Burkas?
To: gusty
One word: muttonchops. I look great with them (kinda like Kevin McNally in
pirates of the caribbean). But I've got the same problem: work won't let me wear 'em and for the same reason- I gotta be fit tested annually for a gas mask (corrections). The first thing I do on my retirement day: stop shaving for about 6 months.
CC
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posted on
01/27/2014 6:11:51 AM PST
by
Celtic Conservative
(tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
To: Progov
I guess you did not read the article. Mr. Williamson was talking about Sikhs, not Muslims. Sikhs being a sect that’s reason to exist is to fight Muslims. It is what they do. They are a warrior race. It is pointed out that the military of Jack Pershing had no problem allowing Sikhs keep their beards and turbins. Ask the Japanese how it felt fighting against beards and turbins at Imphal and Kohima.
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posted on
01/27/2014 6:14:54 AM PST
by
gusty
To: Dusty Road
I was there for years and never used mine.
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