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To: Toddsterpatriot
Another person heard from who can’t take ownership of his failed policies. (the policies he supported)

Why wouldn't I take ownership of reduced government interference with trade? If we reduced government interference with more of our economy, we wouldn't be in our current mess.

Just as I thought, you morph the question to one of government intervention.  You avoid the 25% of our workforce out of work, and another 25% of our workforce working for less than half what they were earning five years go like the plague.  So no, you won't take ownership.  When it comes to our patent database (essentially) being turned over to China, to China getting many of our military secrets, it's all a big yawn to you.  None of this is admitted to as a massive down-side.  You don't take ownership.  You make avoidence job one.

Just for laughs, what would it take for you to admit our (near complete) patent database, our military technology, 25% of our jobs, and another 25% of our citizens salaries were stripped by 50%, were gifted to China or lost due to our Free Trade policies?

We don't have free trade with China.  No we don't, because China manipulates it's currency so that there is a pseudo 30-40% import tax on U. S. goods headed into China.  And yet, the Free Traders NEVER bring it up.

What would it take for you to admit that our highest in the world corporate tax rate, ever higher regulatory compliance costs and gems like Obamacare cost jobs? Or that importing 20 million low skill illegals reduces the salaries of our own low skilled workers.

Well, since I mentioned it in my post to you (at least the illegal immigrant part of it), what would be the point of me revealing my thoughts on it once more?

As for highest in the world corporate tax rates, what does that encourage Corporations to do?  Shall I play the Jeopardy music here for you, while you suck up the courage to admit there is government intervention that spurs on the offshore madness?  Duh!

And yet here you are demagoguing the issue of government control, as if the lack of any government intervention at all, had brought us exactly what you promised.

Yes, I'm against more government control. Why are you in favor?  No, you're not bothered by government control at all.  Please link me to the prior post on this thread where you blasted the goverment for motivating corporations to move off-shore.  All you did is push for Free Trade.  You did not mention the down sides to it.  You don't take any ownership.  It's all someone else's fault.  $0.25 cent an hour wages in China vs $15.00 an hour wages in the U. S. is not a problem to you.  If it results in job displacement in the U. S. you view that as a great thing.  I don't.  If it results in fifty years worth of technology transfers to a rogue state like China, no problem.  If military grade secrets are in the mix, no problem.  My gosh, we don't want government involvement...  That was Bill Clinton's argument too.

Lack of any government intervention? Where?

I detest government intervention in these things.

Sure.  If that's a sarcastic sure, I don't mind.  Due to the outcome of trade with China, I do favor more government intervention.  I would like to see corporate rates eliminated.  I would also like to see the government protect our technology, and national security technology in particular, better than it does.

I also detest unions. 

Excellent!

If tax breaks and government policies helped to create the situation we have now though, you don’t mind government intervention at all do you.

Tax breaks caused our situation? What the hell are you talking about?

If high corporate tax rates exist as you claim they do, what kind of tax impact is there if the jobs are moved off-shore?  Doen't that amount to a tax break for moving jobs off-shore?


13 posted on 01/26/2014 2:40:00 PM PST by DoughtyOne (ZERO is still zero, and John Kerry is a mock-puppet!)
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To: DoughtyOne
You avoid the 25% of our workforce out of work, and another 25% of our workforce working for less than half what they were earning five years go like the plague.

You have any backup for this claim?

So no, you won't take ownership.

I absolutely take ownership of my desire for less government interference in trade and our economy in general.

When it comes to our patent database (essentially) being turned over to China, to China getting many of our military secrets, it's all a big yawn to you.

I'm against that.

None of this is admitted to as a massive down-side.

Those things are bad. Do you feel they'd be better with higher tariffs?

We don't have free trade with China.

No we don't, because China manipulates it's currency

We never signed a free trade agreement with China.

As for highest in the world corporate tax rates, what does that encourage Corporations to do? Shall I play the Jeopardy music here for you, while you suck up the courage to admit there is government intervention that spurs on the offshore madness?

Since I've already said we should cut our taxes, not raise them, do you feel you've made a point here?

No, you're not bothered by government control at all.

Yes I am.

Please link me to the prior post on this thread where you blasted the goverment for motivating corporations to move off-shore.

Every thread on trade, where I mock big government conservative calls for higher taxes (tariffs) and suggest we make the US more friendly to corporations, by reducing taxes and regs, the opposite of your ideas.

$0.25 cent an hour wages in China vs $15.00 an hour wages in the U. S. is not a problem to you. If it results in job displacement in the U. S. you view that as a great thing.

Link to a thread where I claimed any such thing.

16 posted on 01/26/2014 3:13:17 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: DoughtyOne
If tax breaks and government policies helped to create the situation we have now though, you don’t mind government intervention at all do you.

Tax breaks caused our situation? What the hell are you talking about?

If high corporate tax rates exist as you claim they do, what kind of tax impact is there if the jobs are moved off-shore? Doen't that amount to a tax break for moving jobs off-shore?

Wow, put down the crack pipe.

I'm in favor of less government interference (that means I'm in favor of lower taxes) and you're admitting that government interference (highest in the world tax rates) gives companies an incentive to move offshore, but that somehow means I "don’t mind government intervention at all do you"?

I'll try again, with smaller words just for you.

I want US companies to have lower taxes here, so they don't have lower taxes there. That means more jobs here.

17 posted on 01/26/2014 3:31:42 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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