10 Reasons Why Camille Paglia is the Champion of the Feminist Right

PJ Lifestyle ^ | January 23, 2014 | Susan L. M. Goldberg

[miss marmelstein]

You completely ignore what I have said about her Arabist leanings and concentrate on her enjoyment of Italian culture. Italian culture is NOT the issue of our times - it is Arab Muslim terrorism. In that, she has absolutely nothing in common with Fallaci. Fallaci will undoubtedly be remembered for her hatred of Islam that caused her to practically be banned from Italy. She ended up in New York City, dying of cancer, lamenting the leniency of the Florence government’s lenience towards Muslim extremism.

I have never heard Paglia describe herself as an “Italian nationalist,” since she’s a proud American. And who cares that the two women share atheism...or a love of tiramisu?

[Pietro]

No, you said they have nothing in common, which is not true. As I've demonstrated.

What both undoutedly share, and which is the fatal flaw of each (both of whom I love) is their atheism.

I am a mason, born & raised, and I know that if the foundation is out of true, the structure will never be true-can never be.

Nor am I talking about the enjoyment of a particular cake. I'm talking about a world view that eminates from the marrow of an Italian that is both tribal and individualistic; a self perpetuating and self defeating dichotomy.

[miss marmelstein]

OK, I’ll try once more: what is your opinion of Paglia’s Arabist leanings? I’ll admit she’s gotten more quiet about it lately but you can find it in many of her books of essays. I’m even doubtful about her attitudes towards Israel but I don’t feel like slogging through all her interviews and essays right now.

[Lakeshark]

She also unashamedly and quite forcefully backed the current administration. If she really believs the things in this article, let's just say she is culturally stuck on being a democrat and voting for them.

Sort of like a female Andrew Sullivan.

[Pietro]

I've read Said and he is w/o question a tremendous intellect despite his cultural and political stances.

I can't say that I've read every interview that Paglia has given and so I've never come across her defence of Islam per se, but I can certainly see her being attracted to a brilliant mind. Also, and let's not deny this, there is much beauty in the Arabist world, which like every culture also contains a wide variety of flat spots.

But that merely re-enforces my opinion that her atheism blinds her to some things and further, that she is an unlikely standard bearer for any "cause".

BTW, thanks for the conversation.

[miss marmelstein]

No, she’s not Andrew Sullivan - no way, no how. She has been a tower of strength in defending Sarah Palin and had a major falling out with Crazy Andy over his obsession with Sarah’s ovulation charts. She was one of the first (along with 2nd Division Vet and myself!) to see the almost incandescent charisma of Sarah Palin when she exploded on the scene.

That said, yes, she always supports a Democratic administration until she doesn’t. I’m surprised at her backing off of Obamacare - she was excited about the implementation of “healthcare for all” back in 2008.

[jmacusa]

I’ve been aware of Paglia for years. She don’t no punches. She also happens to be one of the most rapid speaking people I’ve ever seen.

[21stCenturion]

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[Harmless Teddy Bear]

I don't always agree with her but I do read and listen to her because she actually puts a lot of thought into what she says.

If you disagree with her she will point out why she disagrees rather then pulling the "you're a racist bigot sexist homophobe" and then changing the subject.

[firebrand]

Nat Hentoff. Pat Caddell.

[firebrand]

Yet Steinem’s rally cry from 1970 rings down the decades: “No more Alimony! Let’s hear it again: No more alimony!”

Talk about not being a “victim.”

[driftless2]

I remember reading a lot of feminist lit in the late sixties and early seventies. The great majority of the scribbling consisted of vicious anti-male and anti-America harangues from those harpies. They blamed every female problem on men. For those harpies, no woman was ever responsible for anything she did. Evil men made her harm their children or get on drugs or do other crimes.

Steinem and their ilk hated marriage and anything associated with men and women getting together. They didn't want alimony, because they wanted the sexes to stay separate. Remember Steinem's infamous quote: a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle.

[firebrand]

Steinem was/is a cut above some of the others. Her point against alimony is that it turns women into children who can’t support themselves or make their own way in the world.

I also think opening the eyes of women to the fact that we live in a male-dominated world (if they didn’t know it already) was a good thing. It doesn’t make women hate men. It’s just a fact that goes into the hopper with everything else when you make your life decisions.

Steinem is straight and very attractive and eventually got married. I wrote to her one time trying to start a dialogue on abortion but she never answered.

[driftless2]

If she was a cut above other feminists, it was only because while they were up to their necks in the fecal swamp of anti-male/America hatred, she was only up to her shoulders. As much as any femi-nazi, she’s done her best to destroy traditional American values.

[AllAmericanGirl44]

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