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Interesting, but not surprising.
This sentence has two problems.
1) The term "canine" can refer to members of the family Canidae (domestic dogs, wolves, foxes, jackals, coyotes, and other dog-like mammals); or, more narrowly, to members of the sub-family Caninae; or, more narrowly, to members of the genus Canis (which includes dogs, wolves, coyotes, and jackals); or only to domestic dogs. So, what are the "modern canines" referred to here? I suspect they mean "domestic dogs."
2) Why "but?" Doesn't it follow that domestic dogs would be more-closely related to each other than to wolves, since (as this article posits) domestic dogs and wolves are two branches which split off from a common ancestor some time in the past?
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Let’s see, Mother Earth is 6,245 years old, as of last October, Funky Fundie Theologians tell us, which means these dogs must have come from another planet. ALIENS!
I just spent a while researching this actually and was left with the impression that modern dogs most likely owe their genes to an asian wolf which was smaller and more dog like than the modern grey wolf. AS I recall, the domestication process occured in China approx 30-50,000 years ago.
OK then someone explain German Shepards Alaskan Malamutes and Huskies. Because they didn’t evolve very far from that split.
A “common ancestor”? What, like a hybrid wolf?
A “common ancestor”? What, like a hybrid wolf?
I always have an issue with the date. Was it exactly 34,000 years, not a year before or after? And how was the date arrived at? And lastly but not exclusively, has anyone done the math on canine reproductive rates? We would be overun with canines by now, as well as everything else on earth.
Steely Dan from “Reeling In The Years:”
The weekend at the college
Didn’t turn out like you planned
The things that pass for knowledge
I can’t understand
I can, the college is not after truth.
Coincidentally milkbones were invented between 11,000 and 34,000 years ago.
Glad to see this thread. Based on the extreme differences in physical qualities between all the various breeds - it’s not impossible to believe that human ancestors domesticated dozens of wild ‘canines’ that are now extinct.
Hard to believe that primitive humans, on all the different continents; with the range of climate, terrain, flora and fauna, discovered and domesticated just the one grey wolf.
Duh.
Sooooooooo:
If you lay down with dogs, you wake up with flees.
And, if you lay down with wolves, you wake up...
Without your vital organs...
With the cousins of flees...
With a strong desire to eat your dog, cat and hamster.
Don’t tell this to my wolf dog. He’ll talk your ear off telling you different, especially if he thinks it means he has to be a pet and not the master.
I’m relieved to learn that. I like dogs; I don’t like wolves.