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Wal-Mart Relies On Taxpayers To Subsidize Low Wages
Business Insider ^ | June 1, 2013 | Emily Coyle

Posted on 01/06/2014 6:54:56 AM PST by steelhead_trout

Edited on 01/06/2014 6:58:56 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

According to The Huffington Post, Congressional Democrats released a study Thursday that demonstrated how Wal-Mart’s wages are so low that many of its workers must rely on food stamps and other government aid programs, costing taxpayers as much as $900,0000 at just one Wal-Mart Supercenter in Wisconsin.

The report, “The Low-Wage Drag on Our Economy,” was produced by Democrats with the House Committee on Education and the Workforce.


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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Philanthropy is good. And were those “chicken men” Tyson? I’ve heard bad things about Tyson back when Clinton was running for President. They were big backers of him.


261 posted on 01/06/2014 9:39:16 AM PST by steelhead_trout (MYOB)
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To: steelhead_trout

IBTZ!


262 posted on 01/06/2014 9:39:34 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: steelhead_trout

it is a old study and it plays with the facts in how it interprets that statistics that it uses

it points to a “high number” of Walmart employees in a state’s systems of subsidized support, compared to other employers in the state, but it ignores what that number represents in terms of the total number of Walmart employees in the state and how the number of Walmart’s employees in the state compare to other employers number of employees

but that even “high number” does not actually identify Walmart employees in the state (Wisconsin) system; it merely extrapolates how many Walmart employees “could” be getting state subsidiesa, based on a set of Walmart wages (not household income of a Walmart employee just a Walmart wage) and the income eligibility criteria for various benefits, without confirming how or if the study’s guestimate matches reality - which other studies have shown it does not

if that were not enough, you’d have to combine a good many retail industry employers together to equal a number of employees equal to Walmart, and after doing that look at how all their employees stack up in terms of state subsidized assistance - a task the study does not even attempt, because that would be comparin.g apples with apples and not apples with oranges

no matter what anyone thinks of Walmart, merely because of it’s size it is a target, and a media patsy for various political agendas from the Leftists.


263 posted on 01/06/2014 9:42:08 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Lazamataz

Amen bros….


264 posted on 01/06/2014 9:46:49 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: steelhead_trout

We have people dependent now on prices that come from serf level wages in totalitarian and virtually totalitarian countries. They’re dependent because the wages stagnated as workers turned to slave priced products and employers didn’t see the need to raise wages to keep their best workers. The workers thought they were doing ok due to low costs. Then fuel jumped by a third, then food, and now medical care has been artificially exploded by obamacare.

Their costs are going through the roof and here they are in a dead-end low wage job because it used to be ok when buying slave level products.

Bite the economic bullet and buy only quality American made that will outlast the cheap by a decade.


265 posted on 01/06/2014 9:48:26 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: steelhead_trout

Unions and gooberment regulations were the death of manufacturing in this county.


266 posted on 01/06/2014 9:49:16 AM PST by McGruff (I stand with Phil.)
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To: McGruff

cannot be said enough!!!!!!!. So I’ll repeat your post:

Unions and gooberment regulations were the death of manufacturing in this county.
Unions and gooberment regulations were the death of manufacturing in this county.
Unions and gooberment regulations were the death of manufacturing in this county.
Unions and gooberment regulations were the death of manufacturing in this county.
Unions and gooberment regulations were the death of manufacturing in this county.
Unions and gooberment regulations were the death of manufacturing in this county.
Unions and gooberment regulations were the death of manufacturing in this county.
Unions and gooberment regulations were the death of manufacturing in this county.


267 posted on 01/06/2014 9:55:30 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: McGruff

Yup.


268 posted on 01/06/2014 9:59:18 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: steelhead_trout

The “study” is as flawed as any study the Dims ever do.

It does NOT identify “Walmart employees” in the state (Wisonsin” in the state’s system of subsidized assistance.

It takes a set of “Walmart wages” (*** not Walmart employees ‘household income - the real basis of state assistance) and it takes an average number of Walmart employees in a Walmart store and then it mere extrapolates a number of Walmart employees that COULD BE on state susbidized assistance (*** and it ignores - ‘cause it does not know - ‘household income’ which is what that assistance is based on).

It’s a totally flawed study (it’s been used more than once by the Dims) and they love to trot it out because they know there is as much populism based ignorance among grass roots Conservatives as there is in their own flock.


269 posted on 01/06/2014 10:00:40 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Wuli

Thanks for putting forth the facts about this “study”.

Of course, trolls never let facts get in the way of a good old screed.


270 posted on 01/06/2014 10:06:38 AM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: COBOL2Java

I learned, after a couple years of getting the Business Insider in my Email, that I could trust it for objectivity about as much as I could The Daily Kos.


271 posted on 01/06/2014 10:11:07 AM PST by Wuli
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To: steelhead_trout

What is so different about that? Our lower rank Military if married do not make enough money to provide good housing and food for their families. It’s been that way for decades. While wages went up at tad, it was not enough to keep pace with the cost of living!

Yet we have a 6 figured salaried congress, with a golden pension, and Platinum health care for life and it covers their kids until they are 26. I don’t see dingy harry writing that extra check to the IRS.

What I do see is he and RINOS like TN’s sen. lamar alexader vote to cut, gut Military pensions, and health care, that is already very rationed. They won’t give up one dime. Meanwhile they keep greasing DOD contractors palms with billions of $$ for items the Military says it does not want or need.

They knew they were going to close the Commissaries, yet they went ahead and installed $7,000 speed bumps in 5mph parking lots, and installed electronic price stickers. Mre palm greasing.


272 posted on 01/06/2014 10:15:28 AM PST by GailA (THOSE WHO DON'T KEEP PROMISES TO THE MILITARY, WON'T KEEP THEM TO U!)
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To: Wuli

Alas, there is a ready market for this bilge, as well as those even on this forum who will swallow it hook, line, and sinker...


273 posted on 01/06/2014 10:15:36 AM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: COBOL2Java

I don’t disagree...however, some folks find forums and do have some misguided or misinformed positions...I was and to some degree am still one of those.

As I learned a long time ago, just when you think you’ve learned all there is to learn, someone will come along and teach you different.

I learn something just about every time I log on to FR...I’ve become much better at engaging in civil debate and do occassionally change my position on matters as a result of that debate...but call me a troll or libtard simply because I disagree with a position and I’ll cease engaging.

What benefit is there in that if we can’t take a mentoring approach first and work to inform and educate people into coming over to the conservative position?


274 posted on 01/06/2014 10:16:52 AM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: PeterPrinciple
Big business and Big government are the worst of combination.

Eventually both get big, and the lines between the two become blurred......And that's when you get Fascism.

275 posted on 01/06/2014 10:25:49 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: SZonian
I don’t disagree...however, some folks find forums and do have some misguided or misinformed positions...I was and to some degree am still one of those.

As I learned a long time ago, just when you think you’ve learned all there is to learn, someone will come along and teach you different.

I learn something just about every time I log on to FR...I’ve become much better at engaging in civil debate and do occassionally change my position on matters as a result of that debate...but call me a troll or libtard simply because I disagree with a position and I’ll cease engaging.

What benefit is there in that if we can’t take a mentoring approach first and work to inform and educate people into coming over to the conservative position?


I'm not saying you don't try, but there are some - particularly as has been seen on this thread, who are what I would call PajamaBoy types. They are not interested in a dialog, but instead want to push their ideology regardless of whatever facts or opposing arguments you may offer. These are the ones who continue to reply back with "You have yet to reply to..." or "I am still waiting for..." even though, looking above you can see innumerous cogent refutations, again and again, to their statements.

It is these types that are not worth debating. They are trolls. They cannot be reliably engaged in debate. They should instead be ignored, and defeated in the political arena.

276 posted on 01/06/2014 10:29:45 AM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: steelhead_trout

Democrats and the left are 100% supportive of the idea that taxpayers should subsidize low-wage voters.


277 posted on 01/06/2014 10:30:56 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: steelhead_trout

That was a bunch of class-envy crap.

The liberal Democrats are fully supportive of tax-payers being robbed to subsidize the “poor”. Now they want to pretend to oppose it?

Huge joke right here.


278 posted on 01/06/2014 10:32:09 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Lazamataz
They just won life's lottery. They need to be destroyed for the collective good.

DEATH TO THE KULAKS!

279 posted on 01/06/2014 10:32:09 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: steelhead_trout

Then maybe the taxpayer should stop giving benefits to the poor? Maybe Democrats should stop using taxpayer cash to subsidize corporations too?


280 posted on 01/06/2014 10:33:37 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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