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To: ToastedHead

Fox news had a female gunnery Sgt and capt marines on this morning, both no longer active.

The insisted the failure was because the women weren’t allowed to train for the standard. They said the standard should be the same for both sxes.

The message was that with training most women should be able to meet the standard. At least the minimum.


28 posted on 01/04/2014 7:56:10 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Weren’t ALLOWED to train??? That claim is ludicrous on its face.


37 posted on 01/04/2014 8:08:07 AM PST by Bob
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To: driftdiver

Go to any gym, and the gym rats who are there five times a week can all do pull ups. Women included.

We have people in the service now who don’t physically train hard enough, and a command structure which allows it.


42 posted on 01/04/2014 8:11:22 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: driftdiver
The insisted the failure was because the women weren’t allowed to train for the standard. They said the standard should be the same for both sxes.

It is the RECRUITER'S responsibility to ensure that the recruit can meet the minimum standards prior to going to boot. The recruit is responsible, as well, but the senior rank is held most responsible.

With respect to "not being allowed to train...", it is my understanding that the female recruits were told to perform their pullups at the same moment in Boot as the men. If the man fails, they are put in remedial, or put into a later cycle in order to bring themselves in line with the requirements. If they fail to meet the minimum, they fail - and don't graduate.

These two women, whom I thank for their service, are part of the problem - they are NOT part of the solution.

45 posted on 01/04/2014 8:13:17 AM PST by MortMan ("Choice" is properly exercised the night before, not the morning after.)
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To: driftdiver

Even if I could pull myself up three times from a dead hang, which I’m not sure if I could, it would only be because I weigh a lot less than an average guy. I put on my brothers helmet for about 30 seconds and thought I was going to fall over.

I’m sure there’s a support role the ladies can play, but its ridiculous to think they can pull equal weight patrolling a city in 100+ degree heat under threat of attack while carrying 40 pounds of weight. They will pass out, and leave the men open to attack.


46 posted on 01/04/2014 8:13:34 AM PST by ToastedHead
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