To: Fred Nerks; justiceseeker93; butterdezillion; LucyT; little jeremiah
FINDING SUBUD is a young stranger's 9 minute documentary glimpse into the world of Subud.
What is Subud? A Discussion By John Bennett and Steve Allen.
Fourth Subud World Congress Cillandak Indonesia 1971
Sydney 8th World Subud congress in 1989
Where does the word "Subud" come from? It's a contraction of three Sanskrit words:
Susila: Noble or high quality or correct behavior,
Budhi: Spark of the divine that is in everything,
Dharma: Possibility to surrender and be guided by God or the universe.
Loretta Fuddy Dead ?, Keith Yamamoto, Orly Taitz, Subud And Strange Birth Certificate Stories
December 12-13, 2011 -- Barack Obama is not a secret Muslim but he may be a secret Subud sect member
This would make sense, considering that the future president and his mother lived together in Jakarta, Indonesia from 1967 until 1971, when young Barry Soetoro was sent to live with his grandparents Stanley and Madelyn Dunham in Honolulu, Hawaii, where grandma was vice-president of the Bank of Hawaii.
You see a lot of interest in banking amongst the Dunham women. In the 1980s Ann Dunham Soetoro would take interest in microfinance programs and through her work with the Ford Foundation would be linked up with Peter Geithner, father of current Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner.
Madsen suggests that Obamas mother was linked to Subud, possibly going back to the late 1960s, and that she instilled that interest in her son and possibly her daughter Obamas half-sister, 41-year-old Maya Soetoro-Ng, who describes herself as philosophically Buddhist. And while you can be Buddhist or Christian or whatever, you can still be a follower of Subud and Bapaks teachings.
A Muslim, Muhammad Subuh Sumohadiwidjojo, better known to his adherents as Pak Subuh or Bapak, began growing Subud (pronounced Soo-bood) in Semarang, on the northern coast of the Indonesian island of Java in the 1920s and by the 1940s was officially recognized in Indonesia. Subud is an acronym that stands for three Javanese words of Sanskrit derivation, Susila Budhi Dharma, and roughly means man and his inner force giving himself over to and surrending to Almighty God.
While some media has focused on Mitt Romneys connections to the Mormon sect and its cult-like history, little attention is being paid to the Indonesian religious sect known as Subud. The mystical Javanese religious sect, founded by Indonesian Muhammad Subuh Sumohadiwidjojo, also known as Bapak, attracted the interest of President Obamas mother, Ann Dunham Soetoro. Furthermore, Subud had a number of members at the East-West Center at the University of Hawaii, where Obamas mother met Barack Obamas father and step-father. There has been speculation that Obamas mothers close relationship with a number of Subud cultists in Indonesia and her Subud-style memorial service in Hawaii are indications that she, also, was an adherent of the Subud sect. Ann Soetoro also hired for her World Bank projects a number of Subud sect members from the International Subud Center in Cilandak on the outskirts of Jakarta
Bapak was a key player in the 1965 CIA-engineered coup against President Sukarno in Indonesia. Subud has also been accused of being yet another CIA mind-control religious operation. The Communist Party of Indonesia (PKI) and Sukarnos Foreign Minister, Dr. Subandrio, as well as Ceylons assassinated Prime Minister, Solomon Bandaranaike, accused Subud of being a CIA front. The sect continues to maintain a religious compound in Front Royal, Virginia, about an hours drive from CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia.
90 posted on
01/03/2014 1:57:58 PM PST by
Brown Deer
(Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
To: Brown Deer
Can you please add me to your ping list for this type of topic? Thanx.
To: Brown Deer
“Bapak was a key player in the 1965 CIA-engineered coup against President Sukarno in Indonesia. Subud has also been accused of being yet another CIA mind-control religious operation. The Communist Party of Indonesia (PKI) and Sukarnos Foreign Minister, Dr. Subandrio, as well as Ceylons assassinated Prime Minister, Solomon Bandaranaike, accused Subud of being a CIA front. The sect continues to maintain a religious compound in Front Royal, Virginia, about an hours drive from CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia.”
Thank you. I’ve been trying to get this across to people - that only the Federal Government (CIA) had the ability to change identity documents AND coerce cooperation from Federal employees - without actually coming out and saying ‘CIA’.
118 posted on
01/04/2014 11:58:57 AM PST by
SatinDoll
(A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE USA OF USA CITIZEN PARENTS)
To: Brown Deer; butterdezillion; LucyT; little jeremiah
185 posted on
01/05/2014 3:41:24 PM PST by
ecinkc
(Keep a sharp eye, Mr Onaka, Dr Fukino, Ms Okubo. Who knows what the One you shelter will do next?)
To: Brown Deer
Bapak was a key player in the 1965 CIA-engineered coup against President Sukarno in Indonesia. Subud has also been accused of being yet another CIA mind-control religious operation. The Communist Party of Indonesia (PKI) and Sukarnos Foreign Minister, Dr. Subandrio, as well as Ceylons assassinated Prime Minister, Solomon Bandaranaike, accused Subud of being a CIA front. The sect continues to maintain a religious compound in Front Royal, Virginia, about an hours drive from CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia. "Actually, Stanley Dunham existed. Last time I saw her (which was the first time) she was at a party being held by A. Schmidgall-Tellings. The attendees were mostly associated with anti-Sukarno forces in Indonesia. Plenty of former Dutch colonial bureaucrats, etc. There's really no reason to doubt she existed. At the same time I would expect the CIA front story for her probably can't withstand stiff internet scrutiny..."
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245 posted on
01/06/2014 4:40:57 PM PST by
Fred Nerks
(fair dinkum)
To: Brown Deer
SCHMIGDALL-TELLINGS
(dutch name?)
SAD associated with anti-SUKARNO forces? Wondering, as an informer or a supporter? Zero showed up in Hawaii the same year Sukarno died, in June, 1970.
Sukarno was deposed by SUHARTO, evidently a SUBUD SUPPORTER. Just making a mental note.
251 posted on
01/07/2014 12:36:24 PM PST by
Fred Nerks
(fair dinkum)
To: Brown Deer; David
http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/12/obamas_new_nationalism_more_sukarno_than_teddy_roosevelt.html
“...
Though Obama’s Dreams from My Father goes to great pains to insert Obama Sr. into the story — through the literary device of hearing stories about him from his mother — it’s clear that for six of the seven years from ages three to ten, Barack Obama had a hands-on, live-in father: the Indonesian Lolo Soetoro.
That Lolo was a well-connected young Indonesian student, firmly entrenched in the fabric of the Indonesian ruling class, is supported by several facts.
Lolo’s mother was closely related to Sultan Hamenkubuwono IX, the hereditary ruler of Yogyakarta. From 1949 until his death in1988, the sultan was a towering figure of civilian influence within first the Sukarno, and later the Suharto government. He served as the national minister of Foreign Affairs under Sukarno, and from 1973 to 1978, he was also Suharto’s vice president.
Mayo Soetoro-Ng, Obama’s half sister, has publicly mentioned her grandmother’s “royal blood,” and University of Hawaii anthropology professor Alice Dewey, Stanley Ann Dunham’s close friend and thesis adviser, told me in a phone interview last year1 that:
Lolo’s mother, Ann, and Maya lived inside the royal area of Yogyokarta when I visited them in 1978-1979. She was related to the Sultan, I think probably at the second-cousin level or maybe even the first-cousin level. They — Ann, her daughter Maya, and her mother-in-law— lived in a house very near the center of that walled area, which suggested to me that she had a fairly close family relationship to the sultan. The betang is traditionally the area reserved for the extended royal family of the Sultan Hamengkubuwono. No one who was a foreigner without royal blood could live there.
Soetoro’s familial relations to the Sultan would explain why he received a scholarship to the University of Hawaii East-West Center program. Typically, foreign governments recommend students who have some sort of political connection.
Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/12/obamas_new_nationalism_more_sukarno_than_teddy_roosevelt.html#ixzz2pknBR7JL
253 posted on
01/07/2014 2:21:30 PM PST by
Fred Nerks
(fair dinkum)
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