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To: Fred Nerks

Just found this:
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Molokai emergency response personnel gave Fuddy a final salute at the Ho`olehua airport Monday morning before her body was transported to Honolulu.

“We saved eight because of what you did,” paramedic Scotty Schaefer, also Fuddy’s brother-in-law, solemnly reminded fellow emergency responders. “Loretta was family to us.””
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That was at http://themolokaidispatch.com/kalaupapa-aircraft-wreckage-to-be-recovered-under-investigation/

So not only did Fuddy’s sister work directly with the acting coroner whose spokesman publicly stated (the day after the crash) that Fuddy’s body had been pulled from the wreckage.... but her brother-in-law is a paramedic with the Molokai fire and rescue crew who did the rescue.

The Facebook page for Deliana Fuddy (has all her family stuff on it) says she was born on Molokai. Makes sense if her mom and sister lived there. This whole family is entrenched within the government of that island. Having 2 immediate family members be part of the crew that handles rescue and death counseling type stuff at the very place where her death occurred... is quite a coincidence.

Another interesting note, although I don’t have the link for it right now. At the public memorial for Fuddy the most emotional speaker there was Richard Schuman, who was comforted by Fuddy’s family members.


212 posted on 01/05/2014 6:40:01 PM PST by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: butterdezillion

All the relatives lined up like little jack-in-the-boxes, ready to go...Hawaii sure is a funny place.


213 posted on 01/05/2014 6:55:52 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: butterdezillion

Isn't that classic, you wouldn't know what they were putting on that aircraft.

214 posted on 01/05/2014 7:06:25 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: butterdezillion; LucyT

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:eP8XOWnjOh8J:the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2001/Aug/25/il/il10a.html+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari

• Our history: Subud began in 1925 when an Indonesian named Muhammad Subuh Sumohadiwidjojo received what he reported as being a sudden and unexpected contact with God.

The founder of Subud, whom members refer to as “Bapak” (the Indonesian form of address for a respected elder), continued to experience this contact personally for several years before being told, through prayer, that other people could also have this connection with God. Bapak was not a teacher or a leader, but more of a spiritual guide, Subud members say.

The name Subud was first used in 1947. It wasn’t until 1956 that Subud reached the West. Subud was introduced to Hawai’i in the 1960s.

• What’s special about us: Sears, who has had formal training in philosophy and theology, said that Subud is “really the only thing that I’ve come across that is ecumenical in the sense that anybody can do this,” he said. “Anybody can participate and worship in this way no matter what religion you are or if you don’t have a religion.”

Members of Subud come from various spiritual, cultural, social and religious backgrounds. “That’s the beauty of if it,” said member Deliana Fuddy. “We are all very diverse . . . and yet we can come together to improve our connection, to improve ourselves and in some ways, to improve our community around us.”

http://www.gocnhosb.com/gocTinTuc/SBVoice11/SVOL11-08.pdf

Obama’s mother and Subud
By Staff Reporter...

A Singular Woman: The Untold Story of Barack Obama’s Mother, a biography of the mother of US President Obama, Ann Dunham Sutoro, contains several references to Subud. As is generally known Obama lived with his mother in Jakarta for some years...

Arianne (no second name) wrote to me to say, “Talked to Irin Poellot who is reading the book about Obama’s mother and has already run into several literal mentions of Subud!!! I remember the late Mansur Madeiros mentioning he knew her in Indonesia and he is mentioned in the book! I can’t help wondering if we will get inquiries about Subud since it is mentioned often in a book which probably will be widely read. It also is a delicious fact that our Subud sister, Ms Fuddy, just was appointed to her post in the Health Dept in Hawaii in time to be involved in the documentation of fact that Obama was born there.”

I wrote back asking for more specific information and Arianne replied, “Irin kindly supplied some quotes:

In chapter 4 “Initiation in Java” the Subud members are quoted. And then (on page 116): “...she (Ann) was hired to start an English- language, business-communications department in one of the few pri- vate non profit management-training schools in the country.

Ann “found a group of young Americans and Britons enrolled in an intensive course in Bahasa Indonesia, the national lan- guage, at the University of Indonesia recalled Irwan Holmes, (a member of the original group). She was looking for teachers. A half dozen of them accepted her invitation, many of them members of an international spiritual organization, Subud, with a resi- dential compound in a suburb of Jakarta..”

And ......Mohammad Mansur Madeiros, a reclusive and scholarly Subud member from Fall River, Massachusetts, and Harvard, whom Ann hired as a teacher, had immersed himself so deeply in Javanese culture, language and religion that friends nicknamed him Mansur Java. When he died in 2007, friends recalled his preference for the company of ordinary Indonesians — street vendors and becak drivers — over that of other Subud members and expatriates.”

And...there you have it (says Arianne)!.

Obama’s mother certainly sounds like a most interesting woman. From Time magazine online...

“Each of us lives a life of contradictory truths. We are not one thing or another. Barack Obama’s mother was at least a dozen things. S. Ann Soetoro was a teen mother who later got a Ph.D. in anthropology; a white woman from the Midwest who was more comfortable in Indonesia; a natural-born mother obsessed with her work; a romantic pragmatist, if such a thing is possible.”

For more go to...http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1729524,00.html


215 posted on 01/05/2014 7:08:57 PM PST by maggief
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To: butterdezillion
The Facebook page for Deliana Fuddy (has all her family stuff on it) says she was born on Molokai.

You know that she had two different facebook pages (with two different sets of friends)?
223 posted on 01/05/2014 8:03:08 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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