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http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/12/13/donald-trump-and-orly-taitz-reinvigorate-birtherism-after-hawaii-plane-crash

US news and world report is probably the most interesting.They bring up Cruz as having the same problem as zero and try and take out Taitz and Trumph as just whacko birthers. Interesting to say the least.

Taitz hastily wrote a letter Thursday to Fuddy's deputy, Keith Yamamoto, inquiring about the specifics of department policy for releasing long-form birth certificates. Yamamoto was on board the plane and told Catholic priest Patrick Killilea he was holding Fuddy's hand when she died, Killilea told KITV.

I didn't know that Yamamoto was on the plane and moreover holding Fuddys hand as she died, interesting to say the least.

171 posted on 01/05/2014 4:06:06 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: rodguy911

Yes, it was reported from day one that her deputy was aboard and held her hand until she let go and drifted away. Of course, that would mean he let go of her hand and knew she was dead which is never said. Time wise, the reports indicate she floated away about the hour mark so that left another half hour before rescue got there. Then one rescuer got to her and passed her up because she was dead and then later the second guy got her. We don’t know how long the rescue lasted but let’s say at the very least, she had been dead an hour before she was out of the ocean. Excuse me, but how the heck would the pilot not have known she was dead? Remember, he didn’t know and was shocked when he was later informed. Did Keith not holler out for help? Wouldn’t the pilot and 6 passengers (minus the swimmer) constantly keep asking each other if they were ok and where was Fuddy or were they merely relaxing enjoying the sunshine? Makes no sense.


172 posted on 01/05/2014 4:46:41 AM PST by bgill
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To: rodguy911

Doug Vogt told Pastor Dr. James Manning while being interviewed on The Manning Report internet radio program that he believed that the plane was sabotaged with a small bomb with the intent that it go down with no survivors in a zone (radio dead spot) where it would not be missed until after it did not arrive as expected. He said that he believes that pilot’s extraordinary skill saved the survivors.

Doug Vogt has an ongoing case in the Seattle area courts based on misprision of felony statutes in which he names the alleged forgers of aka obama’s birth certificate, but the exact details are revealed in a sealed document only available to the court. He says Fuddy is named in his case, but he did not reveal if she was named as one of the forgers (he did say that the individual who graphically created the forgery was supplied the data to put on it by someone else).


173 posted on 01/05/2014 4:47:53 AM PST by elengr (Benghazi betrayal: rescue denied - our guys DIED - treason's the reason obama s/b tried then fried!)
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To: rodguy911

Three more oddities:

1) the couple in the other plane said the tower asked about the downed plane so the tower knew there had been an accident. Duh, it happened at takeoff and laned right out in front of the airport. But, before the couple were able to land mere moments later, the tower person/persons had disappeared.

2) due to insurance, law suits and I’m sure Coast Guard and LE requirements everyone would have to be taken to the hospital. We know the Coast Guard didn’t take the pilot because his son took him. There were at least two passengers who refused medical attention. We still have the freedom to refuse but you’d think the Coast Guard helicopters would have automatically landed at the hospital and then let the hospital handle the refusal paperwork. It’s the not taking everyone to the hospital that doesn’t sit right.

3) it’d be nice to know who those other passengers were or did they disappear like the tower person.


174 posted on 01/05/2014 5:05:23 AM PST by bgill
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