[canuck_conservative]

Like when Al Gore said in 2008 that the icecap at the North Pole would be gone within 5 years?

That would be today. And instead it’s bigger than ever. Winters are harsher, and last longer.

The world has been pumping out CO2 at record levels for the last 15 years. If the assumption is that CO2 is the direct driver of a warmer climate, why haven’t world temperatures gone up at all in that time?

Clearly the assumption is wrong.

[palmer]

And instead it’s bigger than ever

The Antarctic ice cap is the biggest ever. The Arctic icecap is on the small side of its historical range. 2012 was very low but that was an anomaly. 2013 represents part of a modest recovery from the 2007 warm point. The Arctic temperatures have been steady since around 2007.

[arthurus]

One thing lost in all this talk about CO2 and AGW is the historical FACT that increases in temperature have always preceded increases in atmospheric CO2. Carts and horses and all that.