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Husband of pregnant woman wants her off life support
CNN Health ^ | December 23, 2013 | Elizabeth Landau

Posted on 12/23/2013 6:09:20 PM PST by plain talk

Erick Munoz wants to see his wife's wish fulfilled this holiday season, but it's one that carries ethical and legal challenges: To be taken off of life support. Marlise Munoz, 33, is in serious condition in the intensive care unit at John Peter Smith Hospital in Fort Worth, Texas, hospital officials said. She is unconscious and on a ventilator, her husband told CNN affiliate WFAA, but she wouldn't have wanted her life sustained by a machine. "We talked about it. We're both paramedics," he told WFAA. "We've seen things out in the field. We both knew that we both didn't want to be on life support." Complicating an already difficult situation is that Munoz is also pregnant, about 18 weeks along, WFAA reported. Texas state law prohibits withdrawing or withholding life-sustaining treatment from a pregnant patient, regardless of her wishes.

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To: Fred Nerks

Yup. Access to lots of stuff.


41 posted on 12/23/2013 7:50:21 PM PST by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

what they don’t see is that the brain can rewire itself to recover. they younger ou are the better chance you can get most or all of it back. of course it depends on what it’s damaged, but only time and therapy can tell what you can get back.


42 posted on 12/23/2013 7:56:02 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: defconw

story says he did find her at 2am unconscious.

story also indicates they have a 14 month old child.


43 posted on 12/23/2013 7:58:15 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: JennysCool

paramedics can work weird and long shifts.


44 posted on 12/23/2013 7:59:46 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

True. Still seems kinda fishy to me.


45 posted on 12/23/2013 8:05:42 PM PST by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: Former Fetus

Amen


46 posted on 12/23/2013 8:21:21 PM PST by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: JennysCool
I just can't get over if I know this baby is our last together, (and I can't save my spouse) how I would not fight for the baby.
47 posted on 12/23/2013 8:22:47 PM PST by defconw (Cibco's my spouse)
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To: plain talk

Warning: don’t go to the comments at the link unless you are prepared to see rampant insane death-loving leftism in full display!


48 posted on 12/23/2013 8:31:06 PM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: right way right
He is pretty confused I imagine.

I agree. I wonder if he's got a lot of family and/or a support system that would help him with a new baby.
49 posted on 12/23/2013 8:39:15 PM PST by Shannon
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To: JennysCool
Sounds a bit fishy. Unless she was a nightowl who was normally awake at 2 a.m., how would he know she was "unconscious," and not just sleeping?

Not fishy at all. This exact thing happened to a couple friends some years back. The husband heard a thump and found the wife passed out in the middle of the night on her way to the bathroom. It was horrible. She didn't survive.
50 posted on 12/23/2013 8:45:17 PM PST by Shannon
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To: plain talk

The question that should be asked: Is there insurance?


51 posted on 12/23/2013 8:49:52 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: boycott

I think it’s very UNCOMPLICATED.

She lives, the Baby thrives. She dies, they both die.

When the Child reaches full term, do the C Section, then let her go. The guys Wife lives through their Child.

Makes me wonder why the guy decided to be a Paramedic.


52 posted on 12/23/2013 8:50:41 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Nobody owes you a living, so shut up and get back to work...)
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To: Tax-chick

I agree. If she’d been on life support for years, with no sign of improvement, that would be one thing, but we’re talking about less than three months here.
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Child is currently 18 weeks and appears healthy , at the time the mother had the pulmonary embolism the child was 6-8 weeks and unlikely to have been harmed as the brain was not highly developed at that point ... He is fighting Texas law which is designed to ensure that mothers and their children get medical care DESPITE any outside attempts to limit it ,, let him file a suit and wait a year or two for his turn in front of the judge.


53 posted on 12/23/2013 9:03:20 PM PST by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: Neidermeyer

let him file a suit and wait a year or two for his turn in front of the judge.


that soon? I think he can wait longer.


54 posted on 12/23/2013 9:18:17 PM PST by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: JennysCool

i am sure police have not dropped him as a potential suspect.


55 posted on 12/23/2013 11:07:01 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: doc1019

“You would think this man would want to give his child a chance...”

Yes, you would think that. I understand this is a horrible situation for him. Also, her pregnancy is not very far along, perhaps he didn’t even know she was pregnant (they have a very young child already).

I’m pretty sure the guy is just feeling completely overwhelmed, but ending the life of his child is not a good idea.

I’m glad Texas has this law.

He’s just going to have to hang in there, may God give him strength.


56 posted on 12/24/2013 1:32:32 AM PST by jocon307
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To: Mrs. Don-o

“Because you can’t know what just another day of living means to a person who lives, likes sunlight on his bare shoulder or gets a kick out of strawberry jelly toast, loves his dada, and drools.”

That is beautiful, Mrs. Don-O, so well said!


57 posted on 12/24/2013 1:36:00 AM PST by jocon307
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To: BenLurkin; GeronL

Just wow! At least if she was kept on life support until the end of the pregnancy there is a snowball’s chance in hell she may wake up. Stranger things have happened. He is not even giving her those months. My bet is not only does he not only does not want the baby but he is now rid of both if this goes through.


58 posted on 12/24/2013 2:11:15 AM PST by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: defconw
Maybe it’s not his kid?

That crossed my mind.

59 posted on 12/24/2013 2:46:37 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Our infinite sadness can only be cured by an infinite love." ~Pope Francis)
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To: Secret Agent Man

It’s a lot trickier than that as well. Several years ago, in South Africa, a man in a “persistent coma”, in a coma ward, had a “restless arm” that tended to bounce around. His doctor, in an effort to control the arm, counter-intuitively decided to give him a sleeping pill, known in the US by its brand name of Ambien.

And a few hours later, he woke up for an hour or two. They then kept administering Ambien to him, and gradually extended his wakeful hours to a normal length of time.

Several other patients in the coma ward had similar results, and were eventually brought out of the coma.

The theory was that when part of the brain is damaged, the brain gives off a chemical called GABA, which tells that part of the brain to shut down so it can heal. However, with this burst of GABA, some people become sensitized to it, so when the brain returns to its normal levels of the production of GABA, they stay unconscious.

Ambien is a GABA blocker.

What makes things trickier is that normal consciousness is very close to sleeping consciousness, so the transition between the two is easy.


60 posted on 12/24/2013 6:06:05 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Last Obamacare Promise: "If You Like Your Eternal Soul, You Can Keep It.")
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