Posted on 12/19/2013 1:22:50 PM PST by lowbridge
It's a foul play deserving a free kick in the behind.
A controversial video has surfaced showing a father forcing his young son to run alongside his car for “football training” while using expletives to encourage him go faster.
The tiny tot, appearing only 5-years old, does his best to stay up to the vehicle's speed while running in Crocks, but as the video shows, it's not good enough.
"We're going eight miles per hour. Come on. Pick that s--t up," the unidentified father calls.
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Did he have the kid on a leash going to drag him if he stopped?..what’s the big ... the kid can run till he’s tired then slow down or stop..is dad browbeat in him? going to spank him if he stops
I remember running besides my parents cars just to show off to my dad..”look at me dad!”..this is why kids add “and a half” to there age..they want show off as big boys and dad’s SHOULD” encourage it as long as the kid does not get hurt
It was obvious to me too but then I had that kind of playful back-and-forth relationship with my father. I grew up with sarcasm and tongue-in-cheek horsing around.
“This is flat out abusive and I hope his wife gives him an ear full”
She ought to do more than that. I vote for cutting off his balls!
“But really, the pile on going on here is ridiculous.”
Hey ding dong, the kid is FIVE!!!
Anybody remember the Jimmy Piersall story and how that turned out?
It’s this kind of stuff that makes GAY MEN.
This little baby complains about a pain in his side - typical when you are running out of steam - and the jackass father curses at him.
The Great Santini lives.
Did you watch it? The kid complains about a pain in his side. That should have stopped this nonsense.
I don’t think even the state would make a little kid run down a paved road where he could trip and bust his teeth out. What if he had tripped to his side and fallen under the wheel of the truck. Yeah death would have toughen a kid up, right? I have been here ten years, I ain’t gong nowhere
You don’t know if the kid is 5. The JERNILIST from New York said he looks 5. Why did he say that? Because he doesn’t know. He doesn’t know anything about this boy or his father. Neither do you.
The kid looks in excellent health. He was running between 5 and 10 mph which is lightning fast for a little kid to run for that distance. But what distance was it? Check the video out. It is less than a minute and a half. He probably ran less than a hundred yards, not even one lap around a track.
He spoke twice. Once he said he was running as fast as he could. He said it very matter-of-factly. He was not out of breath. He did not look afraid. He was smiling.
Go back and look again. The boy is smiling. He is proud he can run so fast. He knows his dad is proud of him. He knows his dad’s tough exterior is his way of clowning around. He trusts and admires his dad.
Looks like they live in the country, have a dog, dad drives a pickup truck, they have a flag proudly displayed at the end of their long drive way. This looks like an all-American family that really doesn’t need a village to help them raise their children.
What is far more alarming than a father driving a truck while getting his little boy to run alongside for a minute, is the large percentage of people on a conservative forum who get all worked up and assume this is a bad parent with no evidence at all. It tells me that there are too many who have become conditioned in their thinking through movies and TV shows as far as trusting a parent, or perhaps there are many here who never had a good father and tend to project their fears and disappointments onto any random father they see. I can’t tell this group from the “ding dongs” over at DU that would arrest this father and put the boy in foster care with a homosexual couple. That’s truly alarming.
As I pointed out, the possibility of running over his kid is the only real concern I had. It is generally a very bad idea to try to text or operate the video camera function on your phone while driving. On the other hand, I cannot see from the video if they were even on a public road, and he was driving very slowly. His son was about ten feet away most of the time, and probably never got more than five feet from his SUV / truck the whole time. My point is that it is not possible to say for certain that what he did was dangerous. As far as him running on asphalt, that is something for his mom and dad to decide what is reasonable. Finding the right balance of caution is a difficult parenting decision, and you will probably discover this as your son gets older, because being overly cautious can lead to a child being unprepared for situations that can cause just as much danger as not having enough caution.
If you realized the power of your tongue, you would refrain from wishing such a horrible curse on this father. As a father do you really think it would help this little boy for his dad to go to prison and get raped by other men? I mean, of all the things you could wish for, why not wish this man would get some sense, not act like a teenage boy with no driving safety, or maybe wake up and realize that his lack of caution could have cost him the most precious thing in his life? Some day you might find yourself at the wrong end of an incorrect perception about your parenting skills, or you might make a foolish mistake as a parent as well. Is that the outcome you would wish for yourself, to go to prison and for your son to grow up without a father?
My comment was not intended to mean that I want you to leave and go somewhere else. I am pointing out that your comment is out of character for a dad who loves his son or for a conservative. I imagine you are both. But your comment sounds more like what I expect to come from a DU nut, not a conservative Freeper. It takes a big man to recognize when he is wrong and admit it.
“I can’t tell this group from the “ding dongs” over at DU that would arrest this father and put the boy in foster care with a homosexual couple. That’s truly alarming.”
I guess you are not a fan of free speech and find those of us who have differing opinions an anathema. You are free to believe how you want, so to are those of us who disagree with your viewpoint. BTW, I watched the video and the boy was closer to 5 than he was to 10, o.k., and the trash mouth “father,” in my view, was simply one of those a$$holes for whom sports take on an overwhelming segment of their otherwise worthless lives. I’ve raised three children, all of whom had varying degrees of interest in athletics that we, as parents, allowed to take whatever course that each child desired. I coached youth soccer for all of them, but I did it for them, not for me. That is the difference here!
The only other question that needs an answer is how do you know what goes on at DU? I’ve never visited, inquiring minds want to know.
I didn’t really see anything that I would condemn in his behavior. I didn’t see the guy as abusive. It really didn’t appear to me like something that the dad did continuously to this child. I didn’t like the cursing, but I am not going to “condemn” him for it. I have my own demons and have no right to judge him on that.
The whole thing seemed nonchalant to me.
By now, he’s probably sorry he put it on YT, though.
You know you can see some bad threads on this forum concerning children. There was one here just this week of a father and his lover raping his kid for eight months. True evil walks this world and many times it seems like it is the parents who are the worse. Sometimes I see the title I know it is in my best interest to not to even look.
I personally feel I am getting my little one ready for life properly. We toss the ball around and he is liking baseball more now. I don’t make him run down the road, and I have never seen Joe Montana talking about it was his dad having him run down the road along side a moving car got him to the Super Bowl. Maybe I missed that interview.
You asked me to be the bigger man, and not wish something on this man. I’m not gonna give you the satisfaction, because I can’t see a good father coming from this guy. He used his kid for an Internet stunt and I do not think an adult would do that.
Signing off now, four thirty comes early.
“I guess you are not a fan of free speech “
Wrong. But on a conservative forum I expect and usually find conservative comments.
When you called me a ding dong for my expression of general disbelief at the comments I am reading, I was not referring to anything you said. Did you read them? One comment suggests this man should lose his son and go be butt raped in prison. Does that sound like a conservative, pro-family position? Another comment said he should have his testicles cut off? Really? Is that what FR stands for?
I could sympathize (though not agree) with such comments if they were about the “father” and his homosexual partner who tortured and sexually abused the “father’s” nine-year-old son and was caught recently. But these comments are way out of line for this incident even is the dad is an overbearing jerk or reckless.
So, yes I am for freedom of speech. That doesn’t mean that people should not be called out for abusing that right. And further, this forum is not the place to grandstand liberal or otherwise crazy opinions as they can and do lead to getting zotted.
“so to[o] are those of us who disagree with your viewpoint”
100% agree with you. We both are entitled to our opinions and to express them. Given your age and experience as a parent and grandparent, I would generally defer to you as a rule of thumb. I’m guessing if that was your son driving the SUV then you would give him a good talking to and make sure he isn’t being reckless with your grandchildren.
I actually tend to be extremely cautious about safety issues; especially when it comes to cars. As a vette man you may relate to my experience when a relative spent the weekend in a vette her boss loaned her, and drove her eight-year-old daughter around town. She gave me a ride first and the first thing I asked was how do you disable the passenger airbag. She didn’t know, and her boss who also had a little girl didn’t bother to tell her. Turns out she drove around all weekend with her daughter without ever disabling it. If they had been in a minor accident that deployed the airbags, her daughter might have been killed (due to her being young and even very light for her age). I was not happy about that and let her know.
” I watched the video and the boy was closer to 5 than he was to 10”
You might be right. If this dad was a member of my family or even a personal friend I would want an answer to that question and to know more about whether there is a pattern of recklessness. But, like I said, I cannot see clear evidence from the video that he was being dangerous. If I was on a jury and this was the only evidence that he was endangering his child I would definitely not convict. What he did might well be stupid, but at the end of the day I would not label him an unfit parent for it alone.
“the trash mouth ‘father’ in my view, was simply one of those a$$holes for whom sports take on an overwhelming segment of their otherwise worthless lives.”
You could be right, but I believe in the presumption of innocence. What I heard sounds like a dad pretending to expect his little boy to perform like a star athlete just as a way of cutting up. But I could be wrong.
“as parents, allowed to take whatever course that each child desired. I coached youth soccer for all of them, but I did it for them, not for me.”
That’s exactly how I feel about sports as well. My parents supported our interests but never pushed theirs. And I definitely have seen some parents push their children to perform in very unhealthy ways, but I doubt that is the case based on this minute-and-a-half video.
“The only other question that needs an answer is how do you know what goes on at DU? I’ve never visited, inquiring minds want to know.”
Ha, ha. I don’t have an account with them if that is what you mean. I have probably gone over there three or four times ever. I can handle a lot of things, but I refuse to subject myself to that kind of mental deficiency if it can be avoided.
That’s why I certainly do not want my beloved FR to descend into such madness.
I have observed over the past couple of years a growing angst and a tendency for internal fights to break out here. At first I thought it was due to trolls infiltrating the ranks and stirring up trouble. But when I read the profiles and posts of people like you and others who may disagree over something, I see that the fights are often happening between real conservatives.
I think we are all getting on the edge. I think we all know deep down that this nation is in serious trouble. I think we realize that turning things around is no small task. I think many feel somewhat helpless.
The time may soon come when we have to find a way to put aside petty disagreements and stand together for the survival of this nation.
the fat dad should have been out running with his son. IF he really wanted to get him in shape for football (at 5???) then model the behavior. Driving behind him is just plain stupid… and you can’t fix that
glad to see you have made your mother proud of you….classy
that works for me
“There was one here just this week of a father and his lover raping his kid for eight months. True evil walks this world and many times it seems like it is the parents who are the worse.”
Yeah, I read that one too. I have to admit that your prison and shower comment would not be out of line for those scumbags. Unfortunately they might actually enjoy it.
I am firmly convinced there is a hell, and these deeds will be fully repaid many times over. On the other hand I realize that many people are not convinced of hell and are therefore not afraid to do such tremendous evil. As such I think these crimes should result in a swift determination of guilt and an immediate capital punishment that is implemented in a slow and painful way.
You seem like a caring father who could visualize the horrible loss that could have happened with this boy. I think it is a mistake to assume this dad is a bad parent. You could be right. He may be. I just don’t assume it. And even so, I think it is important to distinguish between an immature dad who might be self-centered and harsh as opposed to the diabolically evil “father” who used his own flesh and blood child for unthinkable acts of depravity. Those are two different things.
” think we are all getting on the edge. I think we all know deep down that this nation is in serious trouble. I think we realize that turning things around is no small task. I think many feel somewhat helpless.”
On that I think we all can agree. OTOH, I just read the article by Lew Uhler about Obamacare being the catalyst for the disintegration of “Progressivism” (what I prefer to call Marxism/Communism). I am quite optimistic that such will be the case. At any rate, we soon shall see, because the crap is going to hit the fan big time in January when people need to get medical care and don’t have the means to get it. My biggest fear is that the GOPe will perpetuate an internecine
war with conservatives and allow the RATs to skate in one more time. Anyway, peace, we have much more important discussions to have than whether some guy is mistreating his son ( as bad as that is if true).
Well said.
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