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To: butterdezillion
How many Benghazi witnesses have been silenced, and how?

I am not aware of any. It's an off-topic question in any event. I'm not going assist in turning turning this into a thread on Benghazzi.

One of the many (MANY) significant problems with the Birther worldview is that it speaks out both sides of the mouth at once.

One the one hand, we're told that pretty much everyone in a position of authority is already "in on it." This is the explanation given whenever Congress (even the Republicans) fail to investigate Birther claims. It's the reason given why the MSM doesn't report any of this. It's the reason given why every judge faced with a Birther lawsuit has tossed them out. Everyone (so it's claimed) knows and has been either bribed, intimidated or otherwise made complicit in the Great Usurpation.

Yet, on the OTHER hand, Birthers act like there are these select individuals who are out to reveal these things (which everyone already knows) who have to be stealthily silenced, lest the people in authority (who already know), are told things (that they already know) and the whole house of cards comes crashing down on Obama.

These cannot both be entertained simultaneously. There is no reason to "silence" the likes of Fuddy on the theory she can reveal Obama's illegitimacy when (supposedly) the Congress, the Judiciary, and the MSM already know that.

So which is it? Anyone?

83 posted on 12/12/2013 12:09:37 PM PST by CpnHook
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To: CpnHook
I am not aware of any.

The correct answer is:

All of them.

Although death=silence, silence≠death.

They have been sworn to secrecy under threat of severe legal action and have been isolated and kept from testifying.

86 posted on 12/12/2013 12:22:40 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: CpnHook

It can’t be possible that a person who cooperated in an illegal scheme might turn when she realizes she could face life in prison or a death sentence?

I actually don’t believe they thought she would turn. I believe they used this to silence the 3 people still in Hawaii who have knowledge and could speak.

As to the intimidation, we know it happened. We’ve got the signed statements of the people who were directly threatened.

As to the HDOH falsifying records, we’ve already got the 1960-64 birth index, Virginia Sunahara’s death certificate (containing a TERRITORY OF HAWAII death cert # on a STATE OF HAWAII death certificate - an anomaly that took EXTRA EFFORT for the falsifier at the HDOH to put in there, which is obviously a red flag) and Johanna Ah Nee’s birth certificate with a BC# having digits overlap (an impossibility with a Bates stamp). So we already know the HDOH is falsifying vital records, and it also seems clear that the person doing it is doing it against their will and putting in red flags in protest.

You cited Occam’s Razor. How many “accidents” does it take, involving critical players at critical times, before it takes greater faith to say it’s all coincidence than to realize there’s a pattern? What are the outer limits of Occam?


89 posted on 12/12/2013 12:43:35 PM PST by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: CpnHook

Whoa. Wait a minute. I just read your response again. You don’t know about the Benghazi witnesses who were forced to sign non-disclosure agreements and given lie detector tests all the time?

If you’re going to argue that “conspiracy” is crazy, it would behoove you to be aware of the facts we already know, about the nature and character of this regime. If you’re not aware of how they have stonewalled and hidden evidence, allowed the crime scene to be destroyed, defied subpoenas, etc, then you’re not even aware of what regime we’re talking about.

It’s sort of like arguing that the Holocaust could never have happened because you’re not aware that Hitler made a law declaring Jews to be non-persons or that he had the Night of Long Knives, etc.

Our Founding Fathers knew that absolute power corrupts absolutely - so if there is no accountability, it is EXPECTED that there will be crimes and conspiracies on the part of government. We know Fast & Furious, Benghazi, IRS-gate, etc have all happened, yet not one thing has happened to the people breaking laws. With that level of accountability, our Founding Fathers would say that conspiracy and corruption are ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN.

I suggest you catch up on the criminality of this regime and then get back to us all with your “conspiracies can’t happen” mumbo-jumbo.


90 posted on 12/12/2013 12:49:27 PM PST by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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