Posted on 12/11/2013 6:54:47 PM PST by Mount Athos
In fact, WHEN is the last time the democrats pissed off their liberal base for NO reason whatsoever?
Only a republican can be so stupid.
Anger the base, get nothing in return, don't attract ANY votes from democrats, and finally keep spending $ we just don't have.
Yeah, that's REALLY smart politics.
Forgot to add, after we've screwed over the base, attack them like nobody's business.
Then ask for them to vote for you.
See I think this is beyond stupidity, something else has be going on.
Blackmail, etc..
He was supposedly to be one of the great hopes to represent conservative ideology. Instead he is at the forefront of selling out conservativism.
That’s not idiocy. That’s something else.
good times...
good times....
/dripping sarcasm
>> I’ll do my bit in the primaries, but when Nov comes around, I will not be supporting any Liberals, even if they are “the lesser of two evils”.
I’m coming around to that point of view.
I held my nose in ‘08 and ‘12 and pulled the (R) lever.
I’ve reached my breaking point though. From now on I’m refusing to vote for the douchebag vs. the crap sandwich (South Park reference). Instead I’ll just Galt out and take personal defense measures to improve my chances of survival regardless of which big government party carries the election — Democlicans or Republicrats.
(And for what it’s worth, the Libertarians ain’t it, either.)
I don’t think Ryan is trying to sell out.
The issue is that when you deal with Democrats moving to the so called middle it seems to always be a journey to the left.
We have a particularly brazen and almost criminal party in power now, and they are full of themselves and won’t back down an inch.
IMO if it is a bad deal then we need to push to block a new turd, and though I would not support Ryan for anything much I think he thought he was doing good.
>> Remember when some freepers were all gooey over him being the vp nominee?
I confess I do.
Older now, and wiser.
Obama? Try the GOPe; obama is waiting in line.
Increase spending, increase taxes,fund Obamacare, make it easier to increase taxes going forward, make it impossible to cut future spending,remove all leverage...that is not a sell out?
you are actually right because Ryan sold out ten plus years ago and this deal is just par for the course.
He seemed pretty unconvincing on Hannity just now. He parroted the old “we gotta win elections to get anything done” line.
I don't get what changed about Ryan. Do Democrats have things against him?
In any case, I sure hope the right wing of the Republican Party does what it can to block this.
Do you think Ryan maybe is thinking the Senate as well as the House is going Republican and these changes benefit such a change? If not, I don't get Ryan on this.
I have never understood comments like this about people like Ryan or Roberts. I don't have to believe in conspiracies or blackmail and just take it at face value that they are just RINOs, moderates, traitors, whatever you want to call them.
It’s getting close to Bronson time for all of us I believe.
Republicans will face intense pressure over unemployment benefits
BY GREG SARGENT
December 11 at 12:24 pm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/12/11/republicans-will-face-intense-pressure-over-unemployment-benefits/
[snip] The imminent expiration of the Emergency Unemployment Compensation program for 1.3 million Americans is mostly being treated as a fait accompli in Washington... (Dems have created an interactive map showing how many people in each state stand to lose benefits.)... This strategy includes placing Op ed pieces by Democrats in papers that serve the districts of top Republicans, such as this one by Rep. Sander Levin in the Cleveland Plain-Dealer, the largest paper in John Boehner’s home state. The game plan is granular: One Democrat points out to me that stats are available on how many would lose benefits on the county level, and that Dems are trying to push these numbers into the coverage, because it is tangible for people in local communities. [/snip]
Don’t they fund Obamacare for 2 years in this? How can they say there are no tax increases? Obamacare is one big, fat, painful TAX.
You mean when he told obama off about Obama care aka Romneycare...aka GOPcare...
Obamacare is a REPUBLICAN establishment invention.
Obamacare was modeled as the healthcare version of Medicare D which PAUL RYAN wrote...I repeat RYAN wrote(much of) Medicare D ten years ago that socialized prescription drugs.
Nothing AT ALL changed about Ryan...but people are starting to wise up(till the next one tricks them for another decade and another 20 trillion)
For really difficult cases they probably pull out some files, casually drop in the names of their kid's elementary schools, their wives car make...etc.
Glenn Beck claims this was essentially what happened to him, more than once.
What they forget is we put them in for a 2 year term to fight for our beliefs. It isn’t about waiting and serving the people in a cowardly manner until the time is right or until you’ve stolen enough from the trough.
Romneycare is Romney as far as I am concerned.
train..bus..same difference. (:
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