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To: vladimir998

And you are NOT able to approve of abortion in these instances of rape, incest, severe deformity or ‘a direct threat to the life of the mother’? Not even in these cases?


58 posted on 12/01/2013 9:51:37 PM PST by lee martell
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To: lee martell
I'm not vlad, but I can settle these issues for you quickly. Go find a rape baby or a deformed baby when they are 21 years old and ask them if they wish they were aborted. I have found NONE that wish they were dead, not one! What crime has the rape child committed that they should get a death sentence? What court has rendered a verdict of guilty and for what crime? In America, the death sentence can only be given under a CRIMINAL court for a felony crime of murder or treason, and is under a jury of their peers. How can a doctor or mother pass sentence on another human being without guilt being proven? If I gave a DNA sample of an aborted baby to the police, they would find that it is human, once alive and is now dead. If you can make a baby into something less than human, then the government can declare seniors not human and dispose of them also. It isn't a stretch to make Jews less than human or black men and women less than human. All I have to do is get you deemed not human, and you are toast. This was the break in the law in Roe. To pretend the baby wasn't a human baby made it ineligible to the Bill of Rights. When you do that, you can do whatever you want to people you don't like. When a mom get's pregnant and decides she doesn't want the baby, no matter what the reason, who is she to decide life or death? If a man gets married and decides his new wife doesn't make his eggs the way he likes them, why not abort instead of all that estate spitting and child support nonsense? I'm willing to bet there are some in this administration that don't like you if you post on FR. That may be all they need to stop your cancer treatment under Obamacare. Abortion by any other name,......

I've heard every excuse in the book for abortion and it all gets back to making life and death judgements about other PEOPLE. A baby is a person, it's not property to be disposed of. We can't decide for it that not having legs makes it too pitiful to live. I have CP in my family and they love life and want to live and have never known anything but a hard life. It's their life, not mine, and I don't have the right to feel they don't deserve to live.

It's a tough thing for a woman to carry a baby to term that was raped, but the baby is innocent and had nothing to do with the crime. That's why we have adoption.

59 posted on 12/01/2013 10:27:29 PM PST by chuckles
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To: lee martell

“And you are NOT able to approve of abortion in these instances of rape, incest, severe deformity or ‘a direct threat to the life of the mother’? Not even in these cases?”

No, I’m an orthodox Christian. I don’t believe in EVER murdering innocent babies. In a case of rape - that baby is innocent. He has committed no crime. Why should his life be ended because his biological father did something evil? In incest, again, that baby is innocent and does not deserve to be die. In cases concerning the life of the mother, every effort, no matter how costly, should be made to save the lives of both. Under no circumstance is it a moral choice to deliberately take the life of an innocent person (we call that murder after all). I should also point out that abortions for rape, incest, and life of the mother amount to less than 2 percent of all abortions so these situations are not even that common.

There’s never a moral reason to murder an innocent baby. Never.


67 posted on 12/02/2013 5:00:09 AM PST by vladimir998
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