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Crime rate plunges after city dumps unionized police (Camden,NJ)
American Thinker ^ | 11/30/2013 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 11/30/2013 10:55:10 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Camden, New Jersey dumped its unionized police force last spring, unable to afford the lucrative union contract the city was stuck with, and instead contracted for police services with the nonunion county force. Crime promptly dropped. Ed Krayewski reports for Reason:

The city has been run exclusively by Democrats for several generations, and some local leaders openly worried that Camden, which already had the highest crime rate per capita last year, would get worse. But it hasn't. In fact, crime's gone down, as Fox News Latino reports:

The reorganization increased the amount of police on the streets and incorporated cutting edge technology such as ShotSpotter rooftop monitors. The initiative has already gotten results, according to city leaders.

Over the summer months this year, the murder rate fell by 22 percent and crime overall was down 15 percent, according to data provided by Camden County officials. When it comes to cops versus robbers, you can generally find me in the pro-cop camp. But police unions are another thing entirely. In return for their admittedly hazardous and stressful jobs, unions have in many places abusive contracts.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: camden; crime; newjersey; nj; police
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1 posted on 11/30/2013 10:55:10 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Interesting.


2 posted on 11/30/2013 10:57:04 AM PST by Antihero101607
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To: SeekAndFind

Let’s do this with TEACHERS....drop the UNION contract teachers, now!


3 posted on 11/30/2013 11:00:04 AM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: SeekAndFind; Alaska Wolf

ping!


4 posted on 11/30/2013 11:01:22 AM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Who’s doing the counting?

Camden is a crap hole and nothing changed that culture in a short period.

Disgusting town.

First time I went there was when I walked across the Ben Franklin. This was after a cop warned me not to go there.

I made it to the bottom of the bridge took one look south and left.

I then worked in Paramus for a couple of months and had to pass that Shiite hole every morning.

The views got worse everyday as I became more familiar with the area.

Years later I got a call from Camden PD to upgrade their communications infrastructure.

I had the appointment, picked up their lame-azz “RFQ”(They made the appointment seem like we were one of their first choices) and I hate RFQ’s about as much as I hate RFI’s.

Seems more like a crapshoot auction in which no relationship is created and I am not some objectified price quoter.

I passed the “lead” off to some moron who thought I had given him 10 years worth of Christmas.

You can literally hear Camden sucking from Rodney Square in Wilmington, DE.

Can’t think of a dumpier place I’ve ever been to in America.

My idea for rejuvenating the place?; Burn it to the ground and start over.

My other idea?; fence it off and put up warning signs every 150 feet to keep others from entering a war zone.


5 posted on 11/30/2013 11:12:58 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: null and void

LOL! That’s funny. I think he sucking ozone though


6 posted on 11/30/2013 11:13:33 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Vendome

Correction:
I “RFI’s” should read “RFP”.


7 posted on 11/30/2013 11:15:21 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Vendome

Correction:
I “Paramus” should read “Pennsauken”. Camden’s red headed, Fugly, step sister.


8 posted on 11/30/2013 11:36:20 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: goodnesswins

Great idea.

How ya doing down in Oregon? We certainly miss you up here.

Certainly isn’t the same with you gone to Oregon, Billthedrill in Idaho, JustLori in Heaven and Libertina too busy to participate.


9 posted on 11/30/2013 11:57:15 AM PST by bigfootbob
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To: bigfootbob

ahhh, Libertina . She is one of the truly good guys, colorful fonts and all.


10 posted on 11/30/2013 11:58:41 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: SeekAndFind

Government Union = Organized Crime


11 posted on 11/30/2013 12:00:22 PM PST by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is good. I’ll have to look for the underlying source documents.


12 posted on 11/30/2013 12:01:28 PM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This was put in place by a big democratic party boss named George Norcross. The article is slightly misleading in that the county-wide force was created exclusively to reorganize Camden PD. There are no other cities in included in this force right now, and the police are free to unionize under the new structure. This was simply a way to shed pension and wage obligations and start over. It has only been in place since May so it’s a bit soon to tell whether crime will actually go down but it’s a very interesting experiment in deconstructing a union and reconstituting it as something else to get rid of financial obligations to the union members.


13 posted on 11/30/2013 12:22:51 PM PST by rudabaga
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To: SeekAndFind

So their hiring security guards from walmart? good choice! Stay healthy my friends


14 posted on 11/30/2013 1:06:12 PM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: SeekAndFind

Gee ya think?

This is the ONLY thing I like about Krispy.


15 posted on 11/30/2013 1:17:02 PM PST by esoxmagnum (Turtles don't win fights, they just turtle up. Victory belongs to the aggressor, not the turtle.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“After this, therefore because of this” is a Logical Fallacy.

Needs to be a bit more information as to WHY the crime when down... Maybe more info along the lines of “The reorganization increased the amount of police on the streets and incorporated cutting edge technology such as ShotSpotter rooftop monitors. The initiative has already gotten results, according to city leaders. “

But it certainly is proof that dumping the union cops didn’t heard anything.


16 posted on 11/30/2013 1:19:19 PM PST by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks SeekAndFind.

In New York City, Perfect Storm is Building: 20 years of decreasing crime rates coming to an end.
American Thinker | 11/30/2013 | William F. Dement
Posted on 11/30/2013 1:59:13 PM by SeekAndFind
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3096888/posts


17 posted on 11/30/2013 1:26:33 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: Vendome

“You can literally hear Camden sucking from Rodney Square in Wilmington, DE.”

Hotel du Pont is really nice.


18 posted on 11/30/2013 3:22:50 PM PST by EEGator
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To: EEGator

Yeah, if you work in financial services and have an expense account.

Had lunch there a couple times.


19 posted on 11/30/2013 3:52:14 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: SeekAndFind
Crime rate plunges after city dumps unionized police (Camden,NJ)

It's not my job to fire the gun, I drive the cruisah. And dis-guy heah, he runs the sireen.

20 posted on 11/30/2013 4:00:57 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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