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Relatives of Sandy Hook shooter's victims point finger of blame at mom Nancy Lanza
The Daily Mail Online ^ | November 28, 2013 | RACHEL QUIGLEY, HELEN POW and DAVID MCCORMACK

Posted on 11/28/2013 6:34:14 AM PST by Uncle Chip

Relatives of three victims of the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre have spoken out following the release this week of the long-awaited report into the shooting....

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: coverup; newtown; sandyhook
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To: Sacajaweau

And don’t forget to heap some of the blame on the politicians who outlawed concealed carry at schools... oh, and the people who elected them.


21 posted on 11/28/2013 7:11:46 AM PST by Carl Vehse
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Sedensky’s Summary of Sandy Hook Shooting Phone Calls and Emergency Response:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/11/26/nyregion/26newtownside-timeline.html?ref=nyregion

Transcript of police dispatch recorded that day that pokes holes in Sedensky’s Summary:

http://www.nhregister.com/general-news/20121214/newtown-school-shooting-transcript-of-police-fire-radio-dispatch?viewmode=default


22 posted on 11/28/2013 7:12:33 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Sacajaweau

There’s a dad? Who would have known.

Well, we here in this country pay no attention to dads who abandon their families to birth control, abortion mills and life with just mom 50% of whom are impoverished there is the old judgment day. For all of them

Still, its a big contributor to our struggling culture

I prefer the compny of gentlemen and rarely associate with people who would desert their families, so this screams out toe. There’s a dad?


23 posted on 11/28/2013 7:19:00 AM PST by stanne
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The report will be a cover-up as all reports are. Fingers of blame will point in many directions in an attempt to obfuscate.

Interesting that their official ballistics diagram only lists 154 empty casings, not the 210+ in some reports. Also he apparently only engaged in 4 places, he didn't wander the school and hunt down victims. Those 4 appear to be a few rounds fired from outside - breaking the glass and gaining entry. (so much for passive physical security eh?) A few rounds in a lobby/hall area (initial engagement of several fleeing office personnel?) Too bad they couldn't have engaged him then and there. Then two classrooms where the majority of the firing took place. Looks like he had them trapped in the classrooms. Another failure of passive security measures.

By the empty and partially empty mags (assuming they were all initially fully loaded to 30 rounds) he fired 161 rounds. Where are the other 7 casings? (at home? what did he use to murder his mother?)

The partially empty mags indicate he had time for tactical reloads. That tells me magazine capacity limits wouldn't have been a factor here. He wasn't (always) firing until he ran dry. He had time to reload from a partial to a full mag. Of course magazine capacity limits are stupid anyway, they are based on the idiotic and fanciful notion that criminals bent on murder would obey other lesser laws. But when you have your victims trapped and minutes to accomplish your insane deed before LEOs engage, what's a few seconds for a few magazine swaps?

24 posted on 11/28/2013 7:19:24 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
They certainly lived up down to their obligation here.

They're running around the school like chickens with their heads cut off looking for this mythical second shooter while the primary and only shooter is still in the school finishing off his victims.

25 posted on 11/28/2013 7:19:28 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: oh8eleven

And how can you blame the shooter? He was certifiably nuts.

Really? He was sane enough to plan and plot this all out well in advance. Unless a person is so out of touch with reality he clearly shows it, I DON’T BUY THE INSANITY PLEA.


26 posted on 11/28/2013 7:26:31 AM PST by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama the Doctor Mengele of Medical Care)
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To: Uncle Chip
i agree Adam Lanza's mother was not directly responsible for the shootings. However why would she give and even encourage him to have access to any firearms? It should have been patently obvious the kid was mentally disturbed and you think that she would have had reason enough to fear for her own safety. That said Lanza may have been still able to obtain firearms illegally or by theft or perpetrated his heinous crime by other means.

I still think the actual timeline of events has been altered or suppressed and that the local police botched their initial response and that school officials did not adequately respond to the threat.

27 posted on 11/28/2013 7:27:24 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: Sacajaweau
the kid should have been institutionalized

the cost of that would have consumed both parents’ wealth, as much as it seems they had

But they missed the boat once he turned 18

Nancy Lanza was trying to cope on her own with a seriously mentally ill child who, once reached the age of 18, could not be institutionalized without his consent or without a long legal process, and he had no legal history of being a threat to himself or others. Almost a no-win situation, in this case it was a no win situation

those parents need someone to blame but they don't know what it is like to deal with mental illness in the American legal and medical system

28 posted on 11/28/2013 7:41:24 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Uncle Chip

There are so many falsehoods about this massacre, I wonder if we’ll ever know the truth? Apparently Lanza liked to play some dance game and Super Mario Brothers... We have been systemically lied to on this case and others, especially Columbine. Then, when anyone questions the “facts,” they are mocked and threatened by the libs.


29 posted on 11/28/2013 7:49:33 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: The Great RJ

On the police dispatch the dispatcher at 9:38 states that “the school is in lockdown”.

Who made that decision??

Was it someone on the scene or in the station???

And what does “lockdown” mean especially in this situation???


30 posted on 11/28/2013 7:52:14 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: gaijin
Little known is that one nearby cop did show up in a little over 60 seconds but parked up the street for about 6 minutes as Lanza unimpededly went on unimpeded, blithely executing all those kids.

You can hand a man a badge and a gun.

You can't give him courage.

Meanwhile, an armed teacher or administrator INSIDE the school would have more incentive to stop the shooter, in self defense.

31 posted on 11/28/2013 7:57:19 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: ZULU
Really? He was sane enough to plan and plot this all out well in advance. Unless a person is so out of touch with reality he clearly shows it, I DON’T BUY THE INSANITY PLEA.

"Insanity" as a defense should be reserved for people who were not aware of what they were doing, who thought they were fighting alien monsters.

This guy just appeared to be very angry at the world, and determined to take it out on whoever was nearest, which doesn't make thim that much different from "knock out game" players.

32 posted on 11/28/2013 8:02:29 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: KeyLargo
But despite what seemed like mental health warning signs, the police found a check in the Lanza home for a CZ 83 pistol, which Nancy Lanza intended to give to her son over the holidays.
The epitome of irresponsibility ... "There's nothing wrong with MY son, that a nice handgun won't cure." Unbelievable.
33 posted on 11/28/2013 8:13:15 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: silverleaf
Nancy Lanza was trying to cope on her own with a seriously mentally ill child ... those parents need someone to blame but they don't know what it is like to deal with mental illness in the American legal and medical system

Bump. Nancy Lanza was not a mental health professional. And like many people dealing with relatives with mental illnesses, she was unprepared to make a right and timely decision in handling her son.

34 posted on 11/28/2013 8:20:03 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (Obama is a proven liar, an admitted liar, an unrepentent liar.)
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To: ZULU
Unless a person is so out of touch with reality he clearly shows it
So, no one is insane unless they meet your definition? How convenient.
35 posted on 11/28/2013 8:22:08 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: struggle

I guess we can start seeing the lawsuits against the police then... any lawsuit not withdrawn from an attorney would be a good start ... one other than the one filed for a Google search hit would be a nice start... maybe now that a report si out, the parents can stop lobbying and stat suing... like true blue red blooded sue happy Americans do.. I mean parents sue over bullying and t-shirts....


36 posted on 11/28/2013 8:29:45 AM PST by delchiante
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To: KeyLargo
He had not left the house for three months, and he communicated with her only via email, she said. She was not allowed to enter his room.

And she allowed this to continue in her home??? I would have called law enforcement. I'd have the law right behind me as I broke that door down. He'd either go for help or he'd go to the pokey; one or the other. Not negotiable.
37 posted on 11/28/2013 8:34:44 AM PST by Shannon
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To: Sacajaweau

Later


38 posted on 11/28/2013 8:50:21 AM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Carl Vehse
(head shaking in disbelief) I will never get these people. Everyone quoted in that article, including the 'experts' all say they don't understand 'why' Adam Lanza did what he did. Even after admitting he was mentally ill and 'off his meds', they all say they still don't get 'why'.

Well, you idiot liberal retards, here's why: He Was F---ing CRAZY! End of story, ya morons.

39 posted on 11/28/2013 8:51:10 AM PST by Condor51 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: Uncle Chip
Can any one say FALSE FLAG? Second shooter in the woods in camo not held by police(handler). Second shooter in Colorado theater not found by police (handler). And the story goes on all the way back to Kennedy and the magic bullet that flies all over the place. Wake people you are in a very bad dream.
40 posted on 11/28/2013 8:57:01 AM PST by lostboy61 (Lock and Load and stand your ground!)
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