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Texas drivers pulled over at random, told to turn over blood, saliva samples
RT ^ | 11/20/2013

Posted on 11/19/2013 6:55:25 PM PST by markomalley

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To: cloudmountain

“..the THIN BLUE LINE is essential in this world..”

What would we do without them? I mean, how many wrong doors wouldn’t be smashed down? How many family pets would go unshot?

Yup. God Bless that Thin Blue Line that all that stands between us and societal chaos.


21 posted on 11/19/2013 7:19:18 PM PST by RKBA Democrat ( There is no worst president but owebama, and valerie jarrett is his prophet.)
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To: markomalley

When do we get to take random blood samples from the NHTSA? They’re “working” on our dime.


22 posted on 11/19/2013 7:20:10 PM PST by ToastedHead
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To: markomalley

Testing how soft we are. My guess is they are pretty happy with the results. The media will do as they are told, with a smile and a click of the heels.


23 posted on 11/19/2013 7:22:39 PM PST by ArtDodger
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To: Fiji Hill
So you would be willing to involuntarily give up body fluid samples--which contain your DNA--without a warrant?

Yep. That is the price of the freedom to live in a law-abiding country. Laws, rules, regulations...all of the above.

I lived in Mexico City for two years and did have to pay "mordidas" a few times. I was actually in the wrong all three times.

Once I was in the wrong; the cop stopped me, scolded me and then let me go. He could have hauled me off to the pokey but he just read me the riot act. And no, I didn't cry. I almost did, but I didn't. He COULD HAVE done whatever he wanted. I knew that. I wasn't in Kansas any more.
An honest, good Mexican motorcycle cop. Go figure.

Lol. You had better NEVER leave America. STAY HERE. THIS is the best country in the world....and I have lived in MANY places. You wouldn't do well in 3rd world countries where law is ... not the same as it is here. God bless America.

24 posted on 11/19/2013 7:24:02 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: RKBA Democrat
What would we do without them? I mean, how many wrong doors wouldn’t be smashed down? How many family pets would go unshot? Yup. God Bless that Thin Blue Line that all that stands between us and societal chaos.

I lived in Mexico City for two years and in Saudi Arabia for five years.
Go live in those places for a week. You will stop bad-mouthing the USA and its "rules and regulations" pretty quick.
Easy to pick apart what you have and don't like. Try living in China, India, Kenya or Egypt for....a week, no for a day, no for 10 minutes. ;o)

I've been to all those places. God bless America and all its rules and regulations!

25 posted on 11/19/2013 7:28:19 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: backwoods-engineer

Looks like an experiment to see how far citizens can be pushed. A dry run for a totalitarian state? Whatever it is, it’s not acceptable in a free country.


26 posted on 11/19/2013 7:29:16 PM PST by GOPJ (Was Obama giving nucluear information and equipment to Iran - through Benghazi?)
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To: markomalley

They know that if they can get away with this in Texas they can get away with it anywhere.


27 posted on 11/19/2013 7:31:03 PM PST by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Bro!)
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To: markomalley

Where are the ones who always say “that would never happen in Texas!” .


28 posted on 11/19/2013 7:31:42 PM PST by Old Yeller (Obama: A dark spot in this country's history.)
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To: cloudmountain

Did you miss the part where this was warrantless and performed on the part of the NHTSA for the purported purpose of a study? You mentioned places where law enforcement agencies are capricious. Did you miss the irony?


29 posted on 11/19/2013 7:32:33 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: markomalley

But, but, but, this is Texas, the Land of Milk and Honey! Like the song says Texas has Whorehouses in It,” and its called their Police Stations! All you Texas Freepers need to do some serious ass whooping on your cops. They make the rest of the country look good! Maybe not as bad as your “neighbor,” New Mexico, because I haven’t read that you are shooting at motorists yet!


30 posted on 11/19/2013 7:33:29 PM PST by vette6387
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To: cloudmountain

“Yep. That is the price of the freedom to live in a law-abiding country. Laws, rules, regulations...all of the above. “

NO. You are wrong, you would give them your DNA, because you are on the road? It is AMAZING how easily and freely, you give up your freedoms. This in not Mexico. They need a warrant.


31 posted on 11/19/2013 7:33:42 PM PST by ConservativeChris (I feel like Marvin Boggs!)
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To: PghBaldy

you dont unless you are using the roads for commerce and your vehicle for commerce.


32 posted on 11/19/2013 7:34:26 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: RKBA Democrat

Hey, citizen, those violations of your civil rights are necessary to, uh, protect you, or something. If it weren’t for the random violations of your civil and property rights, why we’d be like all those third world countries that violate the rights of citizens.


33 posted on 11/19/2013 7:35:48 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: markomalley

Bivens v. Six Unknown Named Agents

Argued January 12, 1971
Decided June 21, 1971
Full case name Webster Bivens v. Six Unknown Named Agents of Federal Bureau of Narcotics
Citations 403 U.S. 388 (more)
91 S. Ct. 1999; 29 L. Ed. 2d 619; 1971 U.S. LEXIS 23

Bivens v. Six Unknown Named Agents of Federal Bureau of Narcotics

Bivens v. Six Unknown Named Agents, 403 U.S. 388 (1971),[1] was a case in which the United States Supreme Court ruled that an implied cause of action existed for an individual whose Fourth Amendment freedom from unreasonable search and seizures had been violated by federal agents. The victim of such a deprivation could sue for the violation of the Amendment itself, despite the lack of any federal statute authorizing such a suit. The existence of a remedy for the violation was implied from the importance of the right violated.

Bivens has been subsequently interpreted to create a cause of action against the federal government similar to the one 42 U.S.C. § 1983 creates against the states.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bivens_v._Six_Unknown_Named_Agents

Since NHTSA is a federal agency, they stepped in this steaming pile, they own it.


34 posted on 11/19/2013 7:38:02 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: cloudmountain

Isn’t the 4th Amendment one of our laws?


35 posted on 11/19/2013 7:38:08 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: vette6387

Read further in the article; FWPD was just part of this. This crap was all under the umbrella of a NHTSA study. The National Highway Safety Administration was running this show. Chilling, no?


36 posted on 11/19/2013 7:38:26 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: RKBA Democrat
What would we do without them? I mean, how many wrong doors wouldn’t be smashed down? How many family pets would go unshot?
You HAVE led a sheltered life. Go abroad and see how the other half lives.

Yup. God Bless that Thin Blue Line that all that stands between us and societal chaos.
You don't know chaos until you live in a country where the thin blue line AND the army are to be avoided, feared and NEVER trusted. No medal of honor for those poor men. The Third World countries often get their police from the prisons.

You sir, are clueless. Go live abroad and make the comparison: USA versus Mexico, South/Central America, Africa, Asia and Russia. You wouldn't last 10 minutes there with your attitude. Mind you, I suspect that you are very bright and would figure things out FAST...and come home even faster.

Great, innit, to live in a country that lets you whine, bellyache and publicly complain about EVERYTHING with no repercussions and no consequences?

37 posted on 11/19/2013 7:38:37 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

You seem to be condoning the increasing levels of statism.

Greatness is not about being slightly better than crap.


38 posted on 11/19/2013 7:39:12 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: cloudmountain
Try living in China, India, Kenya or Egypt...

Moral relativism isn't much of an argument for accepting evil.

39 posted on 11/19/2013 7:41:00 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Old Yeller

“Where are the ones who always say “that would never happen in Texas!” .”

Federal officers did this, it was not a state or city matter. They did get some off duty cops to help them but this was a federal program. It remains to be seen what response Texas will have. I expect an explosion out of our Attorney General Greg Abbott for the feds doing this.


40 posted on 11/19/2013 7:42:18 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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