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Contrary to what establishment GOP types would have us believe, a third party would not be lethal to the conservative cause. In fact, here in Blue State NY where there is a Conservative Party ticket of candidates on every ballot, it keeps the Republicans from drifting into Country Club mode. In my own town, we just swept the election, putting in place an entire Republican/Conservative board and knocking out the incumbent Democrat Supervisor. This would not have been possible without a separate Conservative Party line. In fact, more people vote on the Conservative in every general election here than are registered as Conservatives. They cross over to make a statement. The same thing is possible at the national level with a 3rd Party (Tea Party or otherwise). Primaries simply don’t matter as much if the GOP candidates are dependent on getting a 3rd Party endorsement. The GOP wants everyone to believe that a 3rd Party isn’t feasible. It is and it will force GOP candidates to be more conservative in order to get the endorsement.
1 posted on 11/11/2013 2:34:07 PM PST by AdaGray
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To: AdaGray

We don’t need a 3rd party. We need a 2nd party.


2 posted on 11/11/2013 2:35:53 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: AdaGray

If third parties are going to be successful, they must do better than perot and nader....


3 posted on 11/11/2013 2:37:05 PM PST by vet7279
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To: AdaGray

Tell that to Mr. Cuccinnelli.


5 posted on 11/11/2013 2:39:13 PM PST by Inkie
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The name is always the selling point. Just “The Reagan Party” might do that.


6 posted on 11/11/2013 2:39:33 PM PST by Mark (DONATE to FR Now!)
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>> It is and it will force GOP candidates to be more conservative in order to get the endorsement.

If we create a viable third party, it can’t be to force the GOP to shift right. The purpose of the third party must be to replace the non-Progressive portion of the GOP and to bring in the non-Progs in the Democrat party as well.

If we create a third party to act as a threat to the GOP, then it is doomed from the start. The GOP must die as a national party. Eventually, the goal would be to push the ideological Progressives of both parties to merge into one and then we can start having the real debate that this country needs: Progressives vs Nationalists.


7 posted on 11/11/2013 2:39:58 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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While the situation you describe is encouraging, I just don’t see it translating to the national stage. not saying don’t try, but I see the republican vote being split.
You can look to last Tuesday in Virginia, where a third party Libertarian pulled enough votes away to give a Democrat a victory.


9 posted on 11/11/2013 2:40:19 PM PST by Farnsworth (Now playing in America: "Stupid is the new normal")
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A third party now, when conservatives are close to taking over the Republican party, would be a disaster.

Instead, conservatives should pitch to Libertarians that they will get more of what they want from conservatives than they ever would from liberal-leftists.

And if the Libertarians join with conservatives to overthrow the current Republican leadership, conservatives would likely reward them with more than expected liberty.


10 posted on 11/11/2013 2:44:02 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (War on Terror news at rantburg.com)
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More crap.

People are Republicans for all kinds of reasons and none of us agree on everything. It will be the same with a 3rd party. For some reason only the Left is capable of uniting all their factions into a voting block. We sit around and demonize everyone who is labeled un-pure.

You're no help.

11 posted on 11/11/2013 2:46:18 PM PST by Deb (If you wanna laugh everyday, follow Deepak Chopra on Twitter)
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A national Conservative party might endorse the GOP candidate or run someone else. Voters could register either way and may the best party win. Doesn’t have to be either-or unless the GOP runs someone unacceptable.


14 posted on 11/11/2013 2:50:04 PM PST by Lisbon1940
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If our nation is to live, we need a party that does not include McCain.

Call it Tea, call you what you want.

RINO’s must be voted out.

Can you hear me now Cornyn?


16 posted on 11/11/2013 2:52:35 PM PST by hadaclueonce (dont worry about Mexico, put the fence around kalifornia.)
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Chicken Slaughtered, Raised In China Could Pose Major Risk

Agree! But, it will make a quicker and bigger ascension of the Democrat party much more pronounced and lethal!

17 posted on 11/11/2013 2:52:43 PM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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Maybe.

But it would be FATAL TO AMERICA AND THE CONSTITUTION.


19 posted on 11/11/2013 2:52:54 PM PST by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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I think Ross Perot said the same thing.


20 posted on 11/11/2013 2:53:02 PM PST by Carbonsteel
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GOP no longer represents the conservative cause adequately.


23 posted on 11/11/2013 2:58:08 PM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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I don't care how many parties we have but I will vote for the one that does the best for the people. Say for instance if Sarah Palin came along and ran on a new party say “The American Party” I would defiantly vote for her, heck if she did not run I would vote for her. Christie never.
24 posted on 11/11/2013 2:58:26 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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3rd Party? Why not a 4th, 5th, 6th, etc.? Let just go back to a parliamentary system and a king!

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26 posted on 11/11/2013 3:12:45 PM PST by celmak
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To: AdaGray

One of the greatest fear folks have is going out on their own.. Leaving behind that which had served it so well for so long, ‘til tomorrow dawns, some folks ought not worry about being alone, at home or in the gulag.

If those elected to be doing the job say they are, yet the results are dismal, what do you do? Election after election..

as Perot pined, I’m all ears! So says a bunch of folks..

GiDDYUP!


28 posted on 11/11/2013 3:14:33 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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Elections are irrelevant.

Casting votes are now irrelevant.

Cook County went national, so it does not matter what party one belongs - the Ruling Class will choose who rules.

And when the Ruling Class does not like whomever might by some miracle be “elected” - they will strip them of power and make them irrelevant as well.

We’ve gone Soviet, and most are stuck in Normalcy Bias mode.


30 posted on 11/11/2013 3:21:49 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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Ah the strange machinations of New York politics where there are 4 standing parties Republican, Liberal, Conservative, and Democrat (socialist). NYC has been a hotbed of socialism dating back to Marx and the Democrat party is their home. The republicans are basically the Nelson Rockefeller, Teddy Roosevelt country club variety. The Conservatives are mostly that just not very big and the Liberal are more of the classic variety not the government at all costs version. There are other parties that spring up regularly thanks to the tiny number of signatures needed to gain ballot access. There are Republicans who have run on that line and the Liberal line the most notable recent example being Mr. Mayor Rudy Giuliani. This seems to work for NY and brings some different voices to the fore. I doubt our nation of low information voters is ready for nationwide roll-out.


31 posted on 11/11/2013 3:25:32 PM PST by scottteng (Tax government employees til they quit and find something useful to do)
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I would be happy with one party that believed in constitutional limited government.

After we get one, then we can worry about getting a second one.

It is easier to take over half of half, than to build up an entire party from nothing. Even the Republicans started as a majority based on coopting the Whigs and anti-slavery Democrats.


33 posted on 11/11/2013 3:29:58 PM PST by donmeaker
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