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To: butterdezillion

At least one of the lawsuits was from an independent candidate for president. If he didn’t have standing, no one had standing.

It was an enforcement loophole that Obama squeezed tightly through, by keeping all of his records sealed. Now there are others who seek to jump through the same enforcement loophole. Soon enough we’ll have guys like the Guvernator who obviously don’t qualify but they’ll “leave it up to the court to decide”. By then, the eligibility requirement is so watered down that it’s meaningless.


593 posted on 10/30/2013 4:07:32 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo; justiceseeker93

I don’t think Cruz wants to get through a loophole. As Justiceseeker93 noted, Cruz hasn’t called himself a natural born citizen. He’s said he is a US citizen by birth and he’ll let others sort out the ramifications of that. The question that’s been debated is whether “citizen at birth” is the same thing as “natural born citizen”. There’s been no ruling on that, as is acknowledged by the Department of State guidelines on citizenship that I linked to earlier on this thread. And I hear Cruz saying he will abide by whatever the legal decision is regarding what roles he can and can’t have. God knows he is dynamite where he’s at right now! Nothing is going to stop him from fighting the good fight, wherever he’s given a platform.

What we need is to FORCE the courts to make a ruling that is legally binding, before the trap is laid for Cruz to be our candidate and then SCOTUS gets Hillary with standing and gives the ruling they never would give against Obama.

The Constitution says that SCOTUS has original jurisdiction in all cases in which a State is a party. If a State passes a law enforcing the Vattel definition of NBC and somebody (DOJ, Ted Cruz, a class action group seeking an injunction while constitutionality is being decided or whoever) challenges its constitutionality, SCOTUS has jurisdiction.

We’re tired. We’re disgusted. We’re demoralized and feeling that we’ve got no means to turn this country around. I am so there. We all are. But it’s worth fighting for. We all believe in the rule of law even if we don’t agree on the definition of NBC, and it’s time for us to demand that our judiciary give the rule of law a fighting chance by acknowledging that as long as we have skin in the game it ***IS**** our business to know the rules our efforts will be judged - and potentially disqualified - by.


598 posted on 10/30/2013 4:42:16 PM PDT by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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