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1 posted on 10/24/2013 1:30:22 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat
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2 posted on 10/24/2013 1:31:27 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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Bookmarked.


3 posted on 10/24/2013 1:31:36 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Marxist Obama'care' Insurance violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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If the libs remain in power and ObamaCare continues, I would fully expect follow-on legislation to make it illegal for a doctor or hospital to refuse ObamaCare-covered patients, or make it illegal to operate out of the ObamaCare envelope.


4 posted on 10/24/2013 1:32:44 PM PDT by AzSteven ("War is less costly than servitude, the choice is always between Verdun and Dachau." Jean Dutourd)
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So - ironies of ironies - could Obamacare actually result in the greatest healthcare system ever by forcing a free-market medical system?


5 posted on 10/24/2013 1:32:54 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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I guarantee you that medical treatment outside of Big Gov’s purview will be illegal inside of 10 years. And that may be an optimistic estimate.


6 posted on 10/24/2013 1:33:40 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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Go somewhere, get a service, pay for it, leave...what a concept!


7 posted on 10/24/2013 1:33:43 PM PDT by cotton1706
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No problem - just hire them from India, Africa and the Caribbean. There are lots of them here now, all grads of medical schools in those places. This going to be great!! (sarc)


8 posted on 10/24/2013 1:35:05 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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My GP (and his wife who is a PA) retired early a couple of years ago and sold his practice. He didn’t want to deal with Obamacare. It was a hassel for me, but I understood and agreed with his decision.

I can imagine that operating on a cash only basis would appeal to him since he was fed up with paperwork.


12 posted on 10/24/2013 1:38:14 PM PDT by Starboard
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Health advocates are skeptical, worrying that only the wealthy will benefit from this system.

YOU created the system that incentivizes these guys to deal rationally with their customers. So if this trend hurts the poor, it can only be because YOU hate them!! Why do you hate poor people?

15 posted on 10/24/2013 1:39:51 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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While the cash-only model may please doctors, some question whether it’s good for middle- and low-income people.

While this system will actually be BETTER for them (since they're humans), if it did hurt them, so what?? Many of them voted for evil fascists like Osama and cheered when he stole freedom and money from the rest of us with OsamaScare, so how do they not DESERVE to suffer?

17 posted on 10/24/2013 1:43:19 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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They will be squashed. They did not build their practices.


19 posted on 10/24/2013 1:43:51 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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My son and daughter in law have enrolled in one of these plans with a pediatrician for their daughters care. Very pleased, they are. Some day, the HHS swat team will appear and cart her away.


21 posted on 10/24/2013 1:48:30 PM PDT by centurion316
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Following the Oklahoma Surgical Center model.

You go there, you get surgical procedures for roughly 1/5th of the cost of a stay in a hospital. Cash only. They do not take insurance.

1/5th the cost. Now think...what’s medicare’s co-pay for surgery? It’s 20%. Or 1/5th. So the question is, what do you get for Medicare?

And the answer is: Nothing.

It’s nothing but an enormous scam designed to enrich insurance companies. And I am not down on insurance companies: There is absolutely a need for people to buy insurance of some sort to cover catastrophic occurrences. That’s what insurance should be. People rail about the “military industrial complex”. The medical-industrial complex is vastly larger.


22 posted on 10/24/2013 1:49:12 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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bump


23 posted on 10/24/2013 1:49:51 PM PDT by gibsosa
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Pay your doc 50 bucks cash for an office visit and keep your records with you.

Funny how the gubmint thinks it is so smart. Alway under estimating the resourcefulness of the people. If you want something there is always a way to get it. Prohibition worked real well for example.


26 posted on 10/24/2013 1:54:02 PM PDT by cork (Remember Bengazi!)
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28 posted on 10/24/2013 1:55:50 PM PDT by DannyTN
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I didn’t see any mention of the Obamacare deductibles.

If you’re generally healthy, and have a plan with a high deductible; you still might find it cheaper to use a cash-only Doctor, because of the lower costs per visit.


29 posted on 10/24/2013 2:00:54 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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——They cherry-pick among their patient population ———

They discriminate. Those who pay get service. Those who don’t don’t.

Those who can’t pay can go elsewhere

It’s just business


31 posted on 10/24/2013 2:02:00 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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So the government makes you cough up to pay into the government rat hole and then pay the doctor for medical care. Great!


33 posted on 10/24/2013 2:03:46 PM PDT by Rock N Jones
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It is actually a good bet that the onerous red tape and the likely explosion in costs due to Obamacare will accelerate the move toward a free market in health care – unless the government explicitly forbids it, that is (unfortunately we cannot rule out completely that such tyrannical steps will eventually be taken – the government generally doesn't like it when its 'help' is refused).

"I quit when medicine was placed under State control, some years ago," said Dr. Hendricks. "Do you know what it takes to perform a brain operation? Do you know the kind of skill it demands, and the years of passionate, merciless, excruciating devotion that go to acquire that skill? That was what I would not place at the disposal of men whose sole qualification to rule me was their capacity to spout the fraudulent generalities that got them elected to the privilege of enforcing their wishes at the point of a gun. I would not let them dictate the purpose for which my years of study had been spent, or the conditions of my work, or my choice of patients, or the amount of my reward. I observed that in all the discussions that preceded the enslavement of medicine, men discussed everything—except the desires of the doctors. Men considered only the 'welfare' of the patients, with no thought for those who were to provide it. That a doctor should have any right, desire or choice in the matter, was regarded as irrelevant selfishness; his is not to choose, they said, only 'to serve.' That a man who's willing to work under compulsion is too dangerous a brute to entrust with a job in the stockyards—never occurred to those who proposed to help the sick by making life impossible for the healthy. I have often wondered at the smugness with which people assert their right to enslave me, to control my work, to force my will, to violate my conscience, to stifle my mind—yet what is it that they expect to depend on, when they lie on an operating table under my hands? Their moral code has taught them to believe that it is safe to rely on the virtue of their victims. Well, that is the virtue I have withdrawn. Let them discover the kind of doctors that their system will now produce. Let them discover, in their operating rooms and hospital wards, that it is not safe to place their lives in the hands of a man whose life they have throttled. It is not safe, if he is the sort of man who resents it—and still less safe, if he is the sort who doesn't."

Atlas Shrugged, Part III, Chapter 1

I shudder at how prescient that book was.

36 posted on 10/24/2013 2:09:37 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Everyone get online for Obamacare on 10/1. Overload the system and crash it hard!)
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