Posted on 10/18/2013 2:51:39 PM PDT by BBell
Hey, bbell,
aren’t you the same guy who wanted Grisham strung up
for not being polite and licking their boots?
Nah, can’t be you...
I must have you mixed up with someone else.
Sorry for my mistake.
Some of the backstory over here.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3080237/posts?page=221#221
200+ replies. Also click keyword grisham for many other previous threads.
A jury trial for a misdemeanor charge seems like a waste, especially since he seems to have been doing nothing illegal.
If one follows Terry vs Ohio, the officers should have stated that they were detaining him, taken TEMPORARY possession of the rifle, and then questioned as to his actions to establish if he was a treat. Then, once determined that he was within his legal rights, returned the firearm and been about their merry way.
A few minutes before you posted this update on the Grisham trial, I was searching for an update and stumbled across this blog by someone who served with MSG Christopher Grisham, and it makes interesting reading to say the least: http://www.michaelyon-online.com/stalking-soldier-arrested-disarmed-by-texas-police-some-facts-opinion-and-analysis/Page-2.htm
And a local cop said he thought the Sarge was “completely in the wrong.” the cop here said as former military he “should have known that he was asking for such toruble by carrying his rifle in public.”
Wow...that’s an eye opener...
I don't think that works. Don't the police have to believe that a crime has been committed in order to detain? Isn't this why New York has had to eliminate their "stop and frisk" tyranny?
There seems to be a concentrated attempt by some to make it seem that an officer may disarm a citizen anytime the officer feels like it regardless of law or rights of the individual. “Asking for it.” “Looking for trouble.” “trouble causer.” “A nut case.” etc are being tossed around by some as if they somehow authorize gun confiscation.
“to establish if he was a treat.”
“Trick or Treat!!”
has been, or is being or is about to be
I’ll take Yon’s words over his. He seems to be a complete buttwart!
I wonder if the law could be changed so that if a six person jury found 5-1 for acquittal, that the judge could grant the acquittal. No equivalent for a guilty verdict, of course.
Even if a jury convicts, a judge can direct an acquittal in most cases, so I don’t see why a single juror should be able to force a retrial because they obstinately want to convict.
You'll notice in the blog that the author has problems with quite a handful of people. I know someone who has written similar reports of just how unfair and mean several other people are.
The truth is that he is the loony-tune. Every interaction with this person is fraught with the possibility of being accused of something, up to and including assault.
Whatever one might believe about Grisham, the actions of the police were unwarranted. A man bearing arms who is otherwise seen to be law-abiding should be left alone. If he is questioned, he should not be disarmed by force. If he must be disarmed, then he should be informed of the necessity and given every opportunity to disarm himself.
If that is the legal requirement, then I would ask, "What crime had Grisham committed? What crime was Grisham committing? What crime was Grisham about to commit?"
I could postulate a number of potential offenses, but the one most likely to be relevant to the situation would be poaching as it hunting out of season or without proper license (since the report indicated that it was a rural area).
Regardless, the officer should have secured the firearm, had a conversation, found out nothing was going on, and then returned the firearm. And all of this would not have been an issue.
Of course, you could.
But the criteria is that you must have evidence. What evidence, aside from carrying a rifle, would allow you to detain Grisham for poaching?
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