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Brain food for the nitwit 20 somethings who voted for the Mahdi and, maybe, a bit of hope ObamaCare will utterly fail.
1 posted on 10/17/2013 8:48:39 AM PDT by libstripper
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The problem is that many of the Obama voters are allowed to stay on their parents healthcare until they are 26.In other words they vote for Obama or some other Democrat POS for years before they take the hit.

Ever wonder why they passed that?


2 posted on 10/17/2013 8:51:57 AM PDT by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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The Government/MSM is going to try to create an environment in which everyone (a) realizes that their health care costs have increased dramatically, and (b) believes that they are the exception.

They are going to pull out all the stops on this. The MSM is going push a propaganda model 24-7.

This will further weaken the credibility of the MSM with everyone except the LIV population.

The “new media” will rise in power as a result. Also as a result, the Government/MSM will increase their attacks on the “new media,” with shut-down being the goal.


3 posted on 10/17/2013 8:56:51 AM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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I find that when I sign up under the name of someone on the Obama donor list, I get a larger subsidy. But when I sign up using the name of someone on the Ted Cruz donor list, my rates are higher, and I get no subsidy at all.

Why can't they simply publish the rates the insurers are charging and then allow us to sign up directly with them? What are they hiding?

4 posted on 10/17/2013 8:58:23 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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Great thread, libstripper...

Great thread.


7 posted on 10/17/2013 9:00:58 AM PDT by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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Always remember, Obamacare is not about health care,
it’s all about getting YOU to join the collective.

You WILL be assimilated.


11 posted on 10/17/2013 9:05:15 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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Being a Canadian, I will fare just fine.


13 posted on 10/17/2013 9:08:27 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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I checked the Kaiser calculator. (i have been up all night) I wanted to run the numbers. Smokers will be hit with an “up to” 50% surcharge on the exchange premium. That extra money will NOT count toward the “up to” amount on the “subsidy tax credit”. They even ask if your kids smoke. Kids are described as 20 year olds. they don’t ask about Choom.

If you can’t afford your employers insurance, too bad, you are screwed. I ran the numbers on a family of 4, earning 30K and 40K per year. The plans say you can get a tax credit “up to”. The amount they have determined after taxes you NEED to spend is Up to 9.5% of after tax income. With the payments which need to be made during the tax year, then possible refunded, and the huge deductible out of pocket costs, this family living on 40K, is going to need to have an extra 10K lying around. What do they do? not eat? not pay their rent/house payment. So if you are eligible and can’t afford your employers health plan, too bad, so sad. How many workers losing hours are going to be able to pay for this?

If you don’t earn a min amount of money, you don’t qualify. You “may” qualify for Medicaid, but if your State doesn’t have that in the budget, you are screwed, too bad so sad. The man is a liar. The premise of this mess is promises that are lies. Why do 8% of the populations “rights” trump the 90% of the populations “Rights” to their healthcare plan, doctor choice, amount spent?


14 posted on 10/17/2013 9:09:02 AM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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has it been reported anywhere that someone not of the welfare class has got a rate lower than they where paying prior?

I didn’t think so


16 posted on 10/17/2013 9:09:52 AM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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The 20-somethings need to understand that premiums will rise under the ACA. There’s no driver within Barry’s socialist scheme to drive down cost. Well...other than rationing and death panels.


40 posted on 10/17/2013 10:36:36 AM PDT by Made In The USA (I'm not yelling, just... just talking enthusiastically..)
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Anyone notice the Kaiser website used to calculate what your “subsidies” are under this mess ... is down today.

Interesting. I wonder if it has been shut down due to it informing people of how much more they will be paying and the gov’t doesn't want that info to get out.

43 posted on 10/17/2013 10:45:28 AM PDT by CapnJack
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