It would seem that there is no defense or explanation from the offending posters?
"Well .......... we're waiting!"
Posted on 10/16/2013 9:58:14 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
Sens. Cruz, Lee say they won't block deal By Mike Lillis - 10/16/13 12:38 PM ET
Sens. Ted Cruz and Mike Lee said Wednesday that they won't try to block the bipartisan deal to reopen the government and raise the debt ceiling.
"The timing of the vote will make no difference to the outcome," Cruz (R-Texas) said. "I have no intention of delaying the vote."
Cruz and Lee (R-Utah) had spearheaded the campaign to attach ObamaCare language to any new budget bills, and had pushed their colleagues to take a hard-line stance.
But the pair emerged from a meeting of Senate Republicans Wednesday afternoon to say they would let the agreement — which contains only one provision on ObamaCare — move forward.
"Some of us want to see it first — we still don't have text," Lee said. "But provided we get the text and have time t review it and everything, I suspect we'll collapse the time."
There has been speculation that the bipartisan deal might originate in the House, thereby eliminating some procedural hurdles when the bill moved to the Senate. But with Cruz and Lee withdrawing their filibuster threats, several GOP senators said the upper chamber will likely act first on the agreement.
The deal reached by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) would fund the government through Jan. 15 and raise the debt-ceiling until February. It would require income verification for subsidies under ObamaCare, but otherwise leave the helathcare law untouched.
The weeks-long fight over ObamaCare has left the GOP sharply divided and licking its wounds, after centrist Republicans warned for weeks that the battle was futile and damaging to the party.
Several Republicans left the meeting Wednesday grumbling that the conservatives in their ranks had prolonged the impasse even as Republicans were sinking in the polls.
"We left a lot on the table because we couldn't get our act together, but this is the best Mitch could do," said Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), who will vote for the deal. "We need to stop the bleeding, lessen the damage to the party."
Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) echoed that message.
"I hope it is another 15 years at least before we have to go through this exercise again," McCain said. "We're in a hole, we have to dig out and come up with a positive agenda."
Is it OK to blink now ???
LOL
True but if Cruz and Lee aren’t gonna block it, it looks like the chances that the House as a whole will reject this bill are getting smaller and smaller by the minute.
It is true, this means conservatives simply need to gear up for the next round and come back harder next time.
Some times you must think out side the box. Cruz could not stop this event from happening only delay it for at least a little more than a day. When Obama Care starts to change their lifestyles and effects their incomes, maybe just maybe we might see change.
And that is Pelosi’s “relaxed face.”
Nothing has actually passed and been signed, but if the deal is as said, and goes through, then it's just until January.
I'll keep fighting, and not hoping for a cave like some here on FR seem to do.
/johnny
/johnny
Yup. Every time I think there’s a glimmer of hope they roll over.
On a financial website I frequent they just had an article titled “Conservatives fight their modern day Alamo... And lose again!”.
Didn’t read the article but can’t say I disagree with the title.
We’re toast.
We will?
I say that because right at this point in time, barring nothing less than a Red Sea-class miracle from the hand of Almighty God (and I doubt He will because this country has pretty much spit in His face for last 3 decades), it certainly looks like the Dark Side has won.
Oh well, at least we get to enjoy Thanksgiving and Christmas...and so do the parasites (using our money to pay for their turkeys and trimmings)....
Don’t come to Canada, it’s worse. Rather than going somewhere, I think it’s
time to make a stand for freedom.
Positive Agenda = More Government Spending
More Government Spending = Deeper Hole
Why? We’re not going anywhere. We buck up our friends and we hammer domestic enemies. We sabotage communists where we find them. One battle does not make a war.
Get strong, get local.
Only if you give up. How is the senate election going in NJ today?
/johnny
It would seem that there is no defense or explanation from the offending posters?
"Well .......... we're waiting!"
I'm sorry, McLame. Are you talking about the country as a whole or are you talking about your pathetic GOPe surrender monkeys?
How do you dig out of a hole when you keep digging it deeper?
God bless you and thank you so much, dearest Servant of the Cross!
Funny, nothing in this sentence says "compromise" to me. What did the Dems give up?
Let's see. In this thread alone they (especially Cruz) have been called useless, morons, paper tiger, yapper, a useless twit, not a man.
Reminds me of the definition of a RINO: Someone who disagrees with you on any single thing or does anything you disagree with regardless of how insignificant.
Under Senate rules, two Senators might not be able to stop the coup that is taking place, but they might be able to use their "face time" to point it out. Cruz has opted to give Harry Reid what he wants. If you're not disappointed by that, then I'm sure that you'll enjoy all the surrenders to come.
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