Posted on 10/11/2013 4:57:40 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum
A single-payer health care system is one in which a single-entity -- the government -- collects almost all of the revenue for and pays almost all of the bills for the health care system. In most single-payer systems only a small percentage of health care expenses are paid for with private funds. Countries that have a single-payer system include Australia, Canada, Sweden and the United Kingdom.
Single-payer is popular among the political left in the United States. Leftists have emitted tons of propaganda in favor of a single-payer system, much of which has fossilized into myth.
Here are some of the more prominent single-payer myths...........
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In fact, single-payer would lead to good care being available only to the few, with crappy care for everybody else.
Just like a lot of young folks found good jobs in DC as govt and its contractors expands, a lot more will find good jobs in this offshore medical trend.
I believe in a single payor - the patient.
What about the well-connected? How is their care under the NHS?
They have the money to buy private insurance. They usually go NHS first, then private if they cannot get what they need on the NHS.
I am glad this topic has been brought up in the forum.
My question for all you very politically smart FReepers is:
Is there anyway possible, logically that the ACA could be morphed legally into a single payer system without new legislation? I know it was not a kosher deal from the get go by the Dems but I am trying to figure out how they could change it without a new bill completely.
It would seem to me it would take a new bill from the House, then the Senate and to the Prez for signing, at which time we could mount a defense like none before.
Bump
Rationing of expensive procedures need not be done overtly, by a “Death Panel”. There will be Death Panels; but, most rationing will be done a lot more covertly (i.e. sneakily).
Here, in Canada, in the late 1980’s, early 1990’s, all governments (federal, provincial, territorial) conspired to drastically cut enrollments in medical and nursing schools. The rationale was stated as “Doctors create their own demand”. Cut the number of Doctors, and the demand for health care would fall — or so went the official line.
Naturally, that soon lead to a severe shortage in Doctors, and long wait lists for testing or operations (A common phrase in Canada: “I’m waitlisted for that operation”). The Fraser Institute (an excellent “free market” think tank) started publishing regular reports on the backlogs for medical services — using the government’s own data. Finally, in the early 2000s, this policy was ended, and more medical school positions opened up. As a result, we now have far more Doctors — including specialists.
That’s led to the latest rationing gambit. Operating room time at hospitals is severely restricted. Most operating rooms aren’t available at night. They are periodically closed altogether for weeks at a time, whenever annual quotas are exceeded.
The latest twist in this sad saga is unemployed medical specialists — in particular surgeons. They are unemployed, because there are no operating rooms available for them to work in.
Meanwhile, wait lists are still often far longer than Americans would once have tolerated.
If all the private insurers in an exchange pulled out I can see Medicare moving in to handle paying the providers and the IRS collecting the payments. Legal? Why not?
What happens when single payer starts rationing care?
You die.
Hey the upside is how drastically SocSec and Medicare financials improve as you trim the life expectancy.
Kiddies upset that granny got off’ed? The regime will send them some student loan forgiveness chits.
Like the real old days.
Only it'll cost a lot more.
Kind of like poverty. We have the same amount as before LBJ, but it costs a heck of a lot more now.
Note, when the Princess had her baby, it was in the “private wing” away from the unwashed masses.
But that is not the legislatively passed law that the Supreme Court validated!
It will be done by the insurers finding out that they are going broke and giving up the ghost in health care market. Then His Arrogance will step in to fix the situation and declare a “national emergency” which will give him extensive powers through executive orders.
True. But Obama would do it anyway. He already has violated the law multiple
times and gotten away with it.
” Cut the number of Doctors, and the demand for health care would fall — or so went the official line.”
That was the essence of Hillary Care. I believe that at that time student loans for expensive specialists became difficult to obtain in the US.
The same dumb ideas spring up all over.
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