[bigbob]

Exactly! But who amongst the Republican Smart People will go on TV and just flat-out say this? The R's are their own worst enemy when it comes to being tricked like Lucy always yanks the football away from Charlie Brown...I'm still afraid Boehner or someone will start caving and once they do, the battle for hearts and minds will never be won. This is the first time they've actually taken a stand in many moons.

[Red Badger]

Only an idiot would ‘negotiate’ under those terms.................oh, wait...........