I think I may know why they are hiding this data...
I just tried
signing up” becuase, well, I want to see how much more the Obamacare premiums are over what I’m paying now. I went to my state’s web site which sent me to the federal web site. After waiting 10 minuted to get to the create your account screen, I filled out the most basic information including their security questions, nd clicked the next button,
After 90 seconds, the system told me that the system is busy and can’t process my request. I clicked chat for help and after 90 seconds was told that there was no one to help me because they’re simply too busy.
Four das into this foaco, their system is STILL not working. THey don’t want to release low numbers because they are low for one of two reasons:
1) The demand is far lower than they predicted.
2) Their system doesn’t work.
Either way, they are deliberately hiding damning information about their silly health care fantasy
If I eventually do get in, I’ll post the difference between what I pay now and thay my family would pay under Obamacare.
Has anyone else tried and gotten actual rates?
You gave them your SS number and other personal information? Now the IRS can check on your compliance. Good luck.
Before the official sign up date, I went to mnsure.org (MN) and looked up rates. For my wife they would raise her premiums by $120 / month, and the deductible by $600 per year. So basically $2040 more per year before they would pay a penny of coverage.
For the cheaper plan... they have $5300 deductibles which includes prescriptions. So they don’t pay for anything until you hit $5300 + premiums in annual medical expenses.
Please tell me you did not enter your personal information into that system. You can go here
http://kff.org/interactive/subsidy-calculator/
to get a guesstimate. I'm afraid that once you are into that system you will be the targeted by the obamma care thugs. I would recommend no one place ANY personal information into that database.
I went to the Blue Cross Blue Shield of Illinois website (my current carrier) to see what would available. This happened after I got the ubiquitous “Dear John” letter telling me my current plan (you know, the one I could keep if I liked it?) just died. That site was working fine, so I entered some “hypothetical data” matching my current situation, and found that my new premium would be more than double the current level. And based on my income, very unlikely I qualify for any subsidies. I might get some small relief from the cap based on percent of income (8.5%, I think - not sure), but it would end up still being in effect a second mortgage payment for me. Not going that route.
What I’m looking into is the Christian Healthcare co-ops, like medishare, etc. I think the Obamacare people knew there would be a small but stubborn group of conscientious objectors who could ruin the whole scheme on religious grounds IF they provided them with no escape valve, so to keep things quiet, they provided that escape valve. Or maybe I’m giving the bill writers too much credit and its no more complicated than the co-ops found a way to get themselves a carve out.
In any event, the premiums in the co-ops are dramatically lower, especially for those of us who like to pay our own way most of the time (translate: high deductibles are fine with me), AND it satisfies the statute such that there will be no IRS problem either. I’m still waiting for someone here or elsewhere to tell me why I shouldn’t go that route, especially because I am a Christian and do believe in the co-ops’ underlying principle that Christians should share each others’ burdens, not as a matter of governmental
coercion, but as a matter of voluntary Christian love.
BOTH!