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“The Nazis ensured that Darwinism was taught in detail using textbooks and classrooms for the reason that ideas derived from ‘Darwinian theory became important truths in Hitler’s ideology.’”

Coming to a college near you, wait....it's here!!!

1 posted on 10/03/2013 12:54:17 PM PDT by kimtom
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2 posted on 10/03/2013 12:55:20 PM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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Yep.


3 posted on 10/03/2013 12:56:02 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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re: “Coming to a college near you, wait....it’s here!!!”

Darwinian naturalism has been in the universities since the 1920’s and 30’s.


4 posted on 10/03/2013 12:57:38 PM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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Yeah, because nobody ever slaughtered millions of people before Darwin and Hitler came along.


5 posted on 10/03/2013 12:59:50 PM PDT by driftless2
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The overall premise of naturalism – that everything in the universe is random and purposeless

That's a lie.

6 posted on 10/03/2013 1:02:38 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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It’s important to note that while Darwin’s Theory Of Evolution certainly did lay the groundwork for eugenics, it was subsequently honed and refined by many people in far flung places from its origin.
Many members of the United States academia set up the sterilization solution to weed out ‘bad genes’.

However, this alone did not allow for the travesty of Hitler’s Germany. After all, God was still the overseer. No matter how man might have come to be, God still presided over all. Not so, according to Friedrich Nietzsche, who proclaimed ‘The Death of God’ and the dawn of nihilism.
It was these divergent developments that gave Hitler and his cadre the intellectual hammer with which to smash the order of humanity and bring in a new age of death and destruction.


7 posted on 10/03/2013 1:03:15 PM PDT by Viennacon
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Darwinism and natural selection has never contributed anything to science or life. It is a godless system invented by a godless man to show his arrogance against the God of creation. Someday the whole facade will come crashing down and schools that forbid the teaching of intelligent design will be scrapheaps of history.


19 posted on 10/03/2013 1:18:58 PM PDT by 2nd Amendment (Proud member of the 48% . . giver not a taker)
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Yeah, sure. Like guns, bullets or gas are responsible. This is an idiotic premise.

Evil men with sick minds who are divorced from a Judaeo-Christian, Buddhist, Sikh, etc concept of God are responsible.


25 posted on 10/03/2013 1:25:48 PM PDT by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama)
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Assuming that this is an accurate explanation of Hitler does it apply to Stalin and Mao as well,or were they just misguided visionaries?


32 posted on 10/03/2013 1:45:15 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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Look up Pennhurst State Hospital in PA. It was the beginning of eugenics and will make you sick. I first heard of it several years ago and watched a show about it last night.


35 posted on 10/03/2013 2:08:16 PM PDT by MamaB
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38 posted on 10/03/2013 3:06:28 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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Outlaw evolution....


42 posted on 10/03/2013 4:16:36 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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"As an agency making for progress, conscious selection must replace the blind forces of natural selection; and men must utilize all the knowledge acquired by studying the process of evolution in the past in order to promote moral and physical progress in the future. The nation which first takes this great work thoroughly in hand will surely not only win in all matters of international competition, but will be given a place of honour in the history of the world." —Leonard Darwin, Presidential address, First International Eugenics Congress, 1912.

More here.

46 posted on 10/03/2013 8:36:30 PM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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Religious instructions and commandments wouldn’t need to exist if they weren’t trying to reign in basic human nature. We don’t need commandments to eat or defecate because our human nature already compels us to do that.

Which means the capacity for evil is part of our basic nature. Humans have a compelling instinct to form groups. And they have a strong instinct to fight with other groups. It makes sense from a survival perspective. If your land is going to be invaded by outsiders, how will you get strong enough to fight them off? You’ll do it by splitting up into your own factions within your country and warring with each other, weeding out the weak and making the survivors stronger. Then, if evolutionary theory holds, the offspring of the survivors will all be stronger than the ones who didn’t survive.

Human beings who didn’t have this instinct would have been wiped out by invading tribes long ago and removed from the gene pool. We carry the genes of the ones that were not wiped out into today.

People have the ability to form into separate groups on almost any basis whatsoever. Geography, national identity, religion, politics, race, schools, or even competing sports teams. That versatility is a sign of how powerful the instinct is. A group is defined as much by who is left out as who is let in.

So there isn’t a great mystery to why Hitler did what he did. Wars have been fought for millenia because we are instinctually driven to fight them. The way in which we decide to split into groups of “us” and “them” is fairly insignificant. Almost anything can be used as a reason.


73 posted on 10/04/2013 6:33:42 PM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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Darwin posited a theory, nothing more.

Men are responsible for the evil men do.

The folks on this thread are positing a theory of their own, that is basically a variant “demon theology” - a bizarre and corrupt religious view that people are good, it is demons that cause them to do bad things - get rid of the demons and all is well.

That way the evil that men do isn’t their fault it was “demons”

Darwin’s Theory of Evolution is neither good nor bad in itself, it’s the faulty theology that evil comes from some external force to corrupt a “basically good” man created in God’s image - and then letting men assign who or what constitutes and “evil force” that is the whole root of this argument.

Fortunately we have lots of help on this thread - people that are of such stunning virtue, rivaled, maybe, only by Jesus Himself, who can tell the rest of us that THEY are the ones who know who and what is evil and what we should do about it.


80 posted on 10/05/2013 4:00:53 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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I would avoid using the logical fallacy Leo Strauss dubbed argumentum ad Hitlerum (argument to Hitler) or reductio ad Hitlerum (reduction to Hitler).

Keep in mind Godwin's Law:
“As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1.”

84 posted on 10/05/2013 11:07:44 AM PDT by Taft in '52
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Kind of like blaming gravity after throwing people off a cliff.


93 posted on 10/07/2013 5:22:11 AM PDT by Fuzz
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Although “secular science” has issues with his conclusion, the data and analysis are unmistakable: Darwin did it.

*sigh*

People are always looking for a simplistic "killer argument" that will completely discredit those who have opposing views, rather than a more modest argument that gives them a real and deserved advantage, so they overshoot the mark and end up being ridiculous and offensive.

107 posted on 10/07/2013 1:55:06 PM PDT by x
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You probably fully agree with the Atomic Sermon
You'd better stop them scientists from researchin'
'Cause they done gone too far.
They got these boys flyin' faster than sound,
They got the whole world in a war.
Man, that atomic energy sure scares me,
'Cause if it can do what they claim,
You'd better start thinking about savin' your soul
Or Sam Johnson ain't my name!

115 posted on 10/07/2013 7:36:07 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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