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To: pepsi_junkie

Perhaps this is what happens when believers choose to elevate a man to be “head of the entire church” and lead them, rather than God Himself.

Didn’t work out well for King Saul, or for many others throughout history. Looking back, this pope isn’t the first to wander off the expected path.


28 posted on 10/02/2013 7:37:04 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Jedidah
Perhaps this is what happens when believers choose to elevate a man to be “head of the entire church” and lead them, rather than God Himself.

Well unless they pray alone without a priest or minister or pastor or whatever most people have leaders in their spiritual life.

Generally the Catholic church provides such a common message on faith and morals with the exception of some rogues priests and nuns. This common message is driven from the Vatican.

However in the case of Francis, he says things with seem in varying ways at odds with this message and confusing to the laity. It seems his thrust is compassion is the supreme virtue and as a result any sort of judgementalism is wrong. This means you shouldn't talk about abortion, you shouldn't exclude atheists or gays or muslims, you shouldn't do anything except embrace everyone all the time and say "I love you!" Well that's all good and all but don't we have things like sacraments (including penance) and aren't we supposed to hold ourselves and others to certain standards of morality? After all, Jesus turned the crowd away from stoning the prostitute but he also told her to sin no more.

31 posted on 10/02/2013 9:57:07 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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