Posted on 09/30/2013 7:47:03 AM PDT by Nachum
The man’s Range Rover was surrounded by several bikers on the West Side Highway on Sunday. One biker apparently cut the driver off and slammed on the brakes just before the SUV bumped his rear tire. But when the driver stopped, several bikers began to damage his SUV. Cops are investigating.
A pack of bikers pummeled a driver in upper Manhattan on Sunday, after a wild chase that began with a fender bender on the West Side Highway, cops said.
The brawl erupted after the victim — who was driving his wife and their young child — became surrounded by a swarm of motorcycles on the highway and accidentally hit one of the bikes near W. 125th St. about 2 p.m., police said.
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One more time guy...just for you...
Because someone slows in front of you, don’t not give you the right to rear end them...
Read this several hundred times. It just might sink in.
If it was even a maliciously intended encounter. I find a little respect and well wishing, even to a grody looking group of bikers, goes a long way. Locking horns over rights is sometimes not the right thing to do.
These bikers were a lawless mob. They were looking for a fight.
Sorry when there is an intent by the vehicle in front (he got there by making illegal lane change/pass) and he decides to see if I can stop as fast as a bike.. with ALL the others around NOT slowing down.. I pin the event on him.. your blinders may be a bit to tight though.. seems to be affecting your frontal cortex a bit..
So give them the opposite of a fight and watch the hate (usually) dissipate. This is Spirituality 101 here, folks.
How about pounding on my window with a helmet? Slashing at me with a knife?
Even with them just pounding and damaging the vehicle I could easily say I was in fear of my life. Anyone close to my vehicle trying to break into it would be a valid target. A biker sitting back 20 yds watching would not be a valid target.
Lets say someone hits the back of my car causing minor damage. I do not have a right to attack that person.
Read this several hundred times. It just might sink in.
Since you don't seem to want to answer the question, I will ask it again.
What were the motorcycles doing?
Why were they slowing down?
Why did they want to stop the SUV? To exchange Christmas Cards?
If somebody on the road is acting so aggressively that you have a reasonable fear for your own safety or the safety of others, you do have the right to rear end them, and a heck of a lot worse. A couple dozen motorcycles surrounding a vehicle and forcing him to stop on a highway is that aggressive.
No problem...Next time someone slows in front of you, and or if you have words with someone in front of you, feel free to rear end them...
I have no problem with you doing that Mr. Bidimus.
Really!
Just because you are in front of someone doesn’t mean you have a right to do what this biker did.
Just because someone hits you doesn’t mean you have the right to attack them.
Smile and wait for the flash.
Of course not. You have to have a reasonable fear that your safety or the safety of others is under imminent threat. The force you apply has to be directed in a way to neutrazile or evade the threat and must stop when the threat has been neutralized or evaded.
So just because somebody taps my car does not mean I can go all Rambo. The fear has to be reasonable and the response has to be proportionate.
If we apply those tests to this particular case, IMHO, the fear is reasonable and the response is proportionate and appropriate.
If they do so in a reckless and hazardous manner I will may, not by intent but newtons does not suffer fools..
And I am good ground with a jury as well.
http://injury.findlaw.com/accident-injury-law/recklessness.html
The bike by making the illegal pass/lane change and then willful break check was being reckless in the extreme.
Stupid biker rear ended himself... Good thinking!
You are either delusional, or an idiot, or both. Who knows.
Standing up for yourself is not hate.
No problem...Next time someone slows in front of you, and or if you have words with someone in front of you, feel free to rear end them...
I have no problem with you doing that Mr. Bidimus.
You can relax now!!
“If we apply those tests to this particular case, IMHO, the fear is reasonable and the response is proportionate and appropriate.”
The fear for the bikers who chased the SUV down?
Perhaps you should have used a helmet. It might have prevented the brain damage.
LOL...
No problem...Next time someone slows in front of you, and or if you have words with someone in front of you, feel free to rear end them...
I have no problem with you doing that Mr. diver!!
No. As soon as the SUV was gone, there is no immediate threat, reasonable or otherwise. The bikers were not justified, under this test, in chasing down and stopping the SUV for a second time.
Just as if somebody robs my house and is running away down the street, I do not have a right to shoot them.
Gotta motor.
I will be driving home is a safe and sane manner, within the prescibed Speed Limit, second lane from the right.
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