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Gasoline pollution mandates delayed
Fuel Fix ^ | September 27, 2013 | Jennifer A. Dlouhy

Posted on 09/30/2013 1:10:57 AM PDT by thackney

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1 posted on 09/30/2013 1:10:57 AM PDT by thackney
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The screws on our freedoms tighten slowly, but inexorably.


2 posted on 09/30/2013 1:22:12 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V baby. It is the only way we can rescue our republic.)
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This standard should be fought and fought hard. The reason is simple enough. When was enough, ever enough for environmental activists? I harken back to the days of silence when very few such folks were given a listening ear. Once they began to be heard, the goal posts have been moving with unfortunate and increasingly expensive regularity.


3 posted on 09/30/2013 1:32:12 AM PDT by wita
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They will continue to move the goal posts until we all are walking in loin cloth robes and wiping our butts with our hands.


4 posted on 09/30/2013 1:57:51 AM PDT by MaxMax (If you're not pissed off, you're not paying attention)
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To: wita

They will continue to move the goal posts until we all are walking in loin cloth robes and wiping our butts with our bare hands.


5 posted on 09/30/2013 1:58:36 AM PDT by MaxMax (If you're not pissed off, you're not paying attention)
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The EPA , like the IRS and the Dept of Education, has become nothing but a fascist vehicle for the expansion of coercive utopianism and fascism. Most of their activity has been by executive order. All three need to be “shut down.” I am looking forward to their being “shut down” permanantly.
The Constitution requires it be done.


6 posted on 09/30/2013 2:12:27 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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What will it cost to lower sulfur in gasoline: 20%, 30% more cost?

How much will it reduce refinery output? What will be the economic impact?

7 posted on 09/30/2013 2:54:37 AM PDT by sr4402
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Does anyone know if the rule applies only to domestic refineries? I believe the US imports considerable amounts of refined petroleum products. It may be the Venezuelan and other offshore refineries won’t make the capital investment in equipment to meet the standards, no matter what the EPA says.

I suspect the long term strategy of the leftists is to move the goal post to a place where the standards are unachievable. Then the regulators will use heavy fines to punish the evil oil companies. This stealth regulatory “tax” via fines on big corporations seems another strategy of the executive branch to assume the taxing powers of Congress.

I’ve noticed under Obama every few days there seems to be a story in the media about some company agreeing to millions, or in the case of some financial institutions billions, in fines imposed by some regulatory agency. We’ve also seen the same with companies threatened with lawsuits by the Justice Department settling for millions without going to court. It seems our current administration uses every tool of government to achieve its redistribution goals.


8 posted on 09/30/2013 3:07:07 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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So by reducing sulfer from 30 parts per million to10 parts per million it will prevent 2, 400 deaths....

I love to see the “science” behind that calculation....

There is this bridge in Brooklyn....up for sell...


9 posted on 09/30/2013 3:44:36 AM PDT by Popman (Liberal wars are about killing people for humanitarian reasons...)
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“This standard should be fought and fought hard. The reason is simple enough.”

I have a diesel car. When fuel had higher sulfur it got better mileage and the fuel was half the price. Now the mileage is slightly lower and fuel costs up to $4 per gallon. Diesel requires the least refining of the fuels. You can basically strain the sand out of the lighter crude and burn it in the engine.

Everything we buy is delivered by truck. This standard has greatly contributed to food and goods inflation.

I think their ought to be a requirement that every new rule have an economic impact statement. When you add them all together you’d see that one of the biggest contributors to our economic malaise are environmental rules and regulations.


10 posted on 09/30/2013 4:05:17 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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This brings the rest of the US into compliance with California, Europe, Japan, and Korea.

The auto manufacturers, foreign and domestic, want a single standard.

11 posted on 09/30/2013 4:23:47 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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“EPA received more than 200,000 public comments on the May proposal,” the agency said.

And I bet 199,995 of them were negative.

$.09/per gallon for this? This madness has got to stop.

12 posted on 09/30/2013 4:31:07 AM PDT by upchuck (nobamacare must be stopped before it can live down to our expectations.)
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“This brings the rest of the US into compliance with California, Europe, Japan, and Korea.
The auto manufacturers, foreign and domestic, want a single standard. “

America was built on cheap gas. Our economy exploded when the car was cheap enough for everybody to own one (and fuel it). The rest of the world is economically stagnant. If we want to grow our economy cheap gas is the way to do it. I frankly don’t care about California, Europe, Japan and Korea. Pardon my French but f*ck them; not us.


13 posted on 09/30/2013 4:49:28 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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Perhaps the only rule should be the rule of law. I’d hate to see what it would take for the importance of law to exceed the importance of rules.

If it has an economic effect on the people rules don’t cut it.


14 posted on 09/30/2013 4:56:57 AM PDT by wita
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To: Gen.Blather
It only takes about 5 minutes to research the subject on the internet.

Reducing sulfur makes the catalytic converter more efficient reducing NOx and VOCs and produces better gas mileage to meet the rising CAFE standards

15 posted on 09/30/2013 5:06:36 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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What will it cost to lower sulfur in gasoline: 20%, 30% more cost?

I would expect an increase similar to that when Ultra-Low Sulfur Diesel went into effect, maybe 50¢.

How much will it reduce refinery output?

That depends how many older, less up-to-date refineries decide to spend the millions of dollars to make the changes.

16 posted on 09/30/2013 5:09:47 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Soul of the South
Does anyone know if the rule applies only to domestic refineries?

The requirement is for the product sold, not how it is refined.

I believe the US imports considerable amounts of refined petroleum products.

It is a relatively small percentage compared to what we use.

17 posted on 09/30/2013 5:11:08 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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Diesel requires the least refining of the fuels. You can basically strain the sand out of the lighter crude and burn it in the engine.

Not anymore and meet the US ULSD requirements. Which is why it costs more.

18 posted on 09/30/2013 5:12:25 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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That depends how many older, less up-to-date refineries decide to spend the millions of dollars to make the changes.

Then that will probably be the rub. Our number of refineries are so low that a few going out of business (due to more of Obama's regulations) will make a major difference.

19 posted on 09/30/2013 5:13:13 AM PDT by sr4402
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"What will it cost to lower sulfur in gasoline.

Depends on the oil.

Sour oil(high sulfur content) from the Alberta tars sands will be more expensive that sweet oil(low sulfur content) like shale oil from the Bakken

20 posted on 09/30/2013 5:18:57 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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