Posted on 09/27/2013 11:58:26 AM PDT by Olog-hai
A state court judge said in a ruling Friday that same-sex couples must be allowed to marry in New Jersey, and that the rights given to them under the state’s civil unions law are not equal to federal benefits now granted to married gay couples.
Judge Mary Jacobson granted a summary judgment requested by Garden State Equality, which had claimed that the U.S. Supreme Court’s rejection of the federal Defense of Marriage Act meant that same-sex couples in civil unions in New Jersey were being denied equal protection. …
(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnewyork.com ...
RE: Sadly, they do.
Well, let’s have a referendum then and formalize it.
I’m sick of it, too.
Judge Jacobson was appointed to the bench in 2001 by then-Gov. Christine Todd Whitman,AND is a graduate of Smith College in Northampton, Mass.
Shockingly enough,she’s married to a man!
http://www.judiciary.state.nj.us/pressrel/2012/pr120125a.htm
Before an unconstitutional court declares such a vote "unconstitutional."
The judge’s decision is constitutional, imo, the individual states having the 10th Amendment-protected power to allow ungodly gay marriage.
Tho only way that I see to constitutonally protect traditional, one man, one woman marriage is for the states to amend the Constitution to outlaw all other forms of marriage.
“Tho only way that I see to constitutonally protect traditional, one man, one woman marriage is for the states to amend the Constitution to outlaw all other forms of marriage.”
I fear that you are correct. This is troubling, because we don’t have the states to pass such an Amendment now.
Fifteen years ago, a slam dunk. Even ten. But now? I just don’t see how the math could possibly work in our favor. We seem to have lost our opportunity.
RE: The judge’s decision is constitutional
No it isn’t. A judge cannot create a law that does not exist.
The people of NJ must vote and have it passed into law. That is the proper, constitutional way to do it.
Judge mary... you will be residing in the cubical next to ted kenndy. Wear sunscreen 5000 biotch!
The libertarians kept telling us that we could always amend if and when absolutely necessary. Utter stupidity and blindness.
New Jersey has allowed domestic partnerships for almost ten years, civil unions for about seven years. In Feb 2012 the legislature passed a same-sex marriage bill, but Chris Christie vetoed it. In the 2012 Presidential election, they voted 58% for Obama, 41% for Romney. Just an FYI.
While I admit that I don't know the details of this issue, I think that the judge is just interpreting state law. Corrections welcome.
NJ does NOT have a marriage law for gays.
Their legislature DID pass it into law but it was VETOED by Gov. Chris Christie who insisted that the people of NJ should decide.
Fortunately, Indiana does not recognize “same sex marriage,” but if it did, as a part time judge, I would probably be required by law to perform the ceremony.
I think I’d come up a special dialog for the ceremony. I don’t think the moderators would allow me to post all of it here. But it would start with “OK, which one of you is the pitcher and which one is the catcher?”
These Judges need to go.
Anyone that helps perversion destroy our society is evil...
OP: ...and that the rights given to them under the state’s civil unions law...
Thanks for reply SeekAndFind. But I'm getting mixed messages about NJ so I don't know what to think.
See here:
http://nypost.com/p/news/local/nj_gay_marriage_bill_delivered_to_OlIRKLEuhwooXdVBDm5H6I
EXCERPT:
Gov. Chris Christie has followed through on his promise to reject a bill allowing same-sex marriage in New Jersey by quickly vetoing the measure Friday.
The veto came a day after the state Assembly passed the bill. The state Senate had passed it on Monday. Christie, a Republican who opposes same-sex marriage, had vowed “very swift action” once the bill reached his desk.
In returning the bill to the Legislature, Christie reaffirmed his view that voters should decide whether to change the definition of marriage in New Jersey. His veto also proposed creating an ombudsman to oversee compliance with the state’s civil union law, which same-sex couples have said is flawed.
“I am adhering to what I’ve said since this bill was first introduced — an issue of this magnitude and importance, which requires a constitutional amendment, should be left to the people of New Jersey to decide,” Christie said in a statement. “I continue to encourage the Legislature to trust the people of New Jersey and seek their input by allowing our citizens to vote on a question that represents a profoundly significant societal change. This is the only path to amend our State Constitution and the best way to resolve the issue of same-sex marriage in our state.”
Last I checked, we weren’t a rule by referendum mobocracy, where the Sheeple decided our right by majority.
RE: Last I checked, we weren’t a rule by referendum mobocracy, where the Sheeple decided our right by majority.
Then we’re screwed because I can’t see a better alternative. What are we to depend on, the decisions of a few elite? One judge?
Yes, Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others.
Better alternative? Are you under the mistaken impression that New Jersey voters would actually vote against gay marriage?
RE: Better alternative? Are you under the mistaken impression that New Jersey voters would actually vote against gay marriage?
Let’s say (God forbid) that NJ chooses to vote for gay marriage... It is still better than the other two alternatives:
1) ONE JUDGE sitting on the bench imposing this on the people.
2) A few legislators imposing this on the people.
If the people of NJ want it, then they’ve in effect chosen spiritual damnation on their state, but at least we know the people have chosen and NOT just a few sitting elites.
Sometimes we are not given palatable choices (e.g. Romney vs Obama) , but the least worst choice is better than the worse alternative.
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