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American gun use is out of control. Shouldn't the world intervene?
The Guardian (UK) ^ | Sept 21, 2013 | Henry Porter

Posted on 09/23/2013 6:42:07 PM PDT by Innovative

The death toll from firearms in the US suggests that the country is gripped by civil war

The annual toll from firearms in the US is running at 32,000 deaths and climbing, even though the general crime rate is on a downward path (it is 40% lower than in 1980). If this perennial slaughter doesn't qualify for intercession by the UN and all relevant NGOs, it is hard to know what does.

But no nation sees itself as outsiders do. Half the country is sane and rational while the other half simply doesn't grasp the inconsistencies and historic lunacy of its position, which springs from the second amendment right to keep and bear arms, and is derived from English common law and our 1689 Bill of Rights. We dispensed with these rights long ago, but American gun owners cleave to them with the tenacity that previous generations fought to continue slavery.

There is absolutely nothing he (Obama) can do, which underscores the fact that America is in a jam and that international pressure may be one way of reducing the slaughter over the next generation. This has reached the point where it has ceased to be a domestic issue. The world cannot stand idly by.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; foreignmeddling; gormless; guardian; guncontrol; guns; secondamendment; unitednations
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To: Innovative

This is coming from a guy whose country has been taken over by Islamists. When the rapes and honor killings begin in earnest, and they will, he will be singing a different tune.. If he hasn’t converted..


101 posted on 09/23/2013 8:08:35 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Barack Barry Hussein Soetoro Obama, America's first woman president..)
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To: Kip Russell
Wiki world map of intentional homicide
102 posted on 09/23/2013 8:21:08 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: Innovative
Mr. Porter,

Can you tell me why there's a statue of Andrew Jackson in front of the St. Louis Cathedral in New Orleans?

Take your time, give it some thought.

103 posted on 09/23/2013 8:25:47 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: cardinal4

Funny, I don’t own any ARs or AKs or SKSs or anything like that.

Funny too that my go to rifles are Tikkas and CZs and even the old Enfield. My go to handguns are Taurus.

I’m defending my 2nd Amendment rights with Euro rifles and South American handguns. Well, I do have the Remmy 7615 as my SHTF bug-out gun, so, there is that.

Anyway, just saying there ain’t no international body that will wander in and disarm us. They will get slaughtered and rightly so. They think the Iraqis and Afghanis were Hell? Just they wait....


104 posted on 09/23/2013 8:30:20 PM PDT by FAA
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To: IMR 4350

you might want to check your history on attempt 2.


105 posted on 09/23/2013 8:36:01 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Innovative
The world cannot stand idly by.

LOL! Kiss my ass, Hank. You want them? Come and take them!

106 posted on 09/23/2013 8:41:46 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Play the 'Knockout Game' with someone owning a 9mm and you get what you deserve)
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To: Innovative
They will require weapons if they intend to invade us. Shall we contribute to their need once again?


107 posted on 09/23/2013 8:43:08 PM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- <<http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: Innovative

BRING IT !


108 posted on 09/23/2013 8:43:34 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Innovative

If they think gun use is out of control now, imagine what they’ll think if they try to set foot in here and “do something about it”.

Black thug gun usage is out of control. General population is just fine.


109 posted on 09/23/2013 8:47:44 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: FAA

I like the Taurus, but it is a bit heavy for. The Hi Point .40 my first firearm, but I really like that Para Ord. It will be while before I can afford that one..


110 posted on 09/23/2013 8:49:19 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Barack Barry Hussein Soetoro Obama, America's first woman president..)
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To: Innovative

Shouldn’t the world intervene?
Only if the world wants to get shot.


111 posted on 09/23/2013 9:16:42 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives. Proud anarchist, 2013)
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To: Innovative

I should think just being a pansy-ass, metrosexual Brit faggot insult enough.


112 posted on 09/23/2013 9:21:04 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: OldPossum
You forgot "Lose" and "Loose". One of My most-often commented-upon pet peeves. I even had one Clymer try to tell Me that it was a "FReeperism", which had Me burst out in unrestrained laughter when I read its post.

"FReeper-ism" My aunt Petunia. I would as soon accept that the 'hugh' and 'series' infantile postings are now accepted comedial references.

113 posted on 09/23/2013 9:28:56 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: Innovative

I would suggest responding by buying RGR and ATK stock and of course buying one more gun should your situation allow. Buy American.


114 posted on 09/23/2013 9:39:21 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: cardinal4
The Hi Point .40 my first firearm

A Hi Point's best feature is the lifetime warranty that's honored by the factory no matter how old it is or many owners it's had. At least that's how it was last time I checked.

I have never even fired a Hi Point, much less owned one, but people who I know who have fired their's extensively say that if you get a good one it will do anything that pistols costing 3 or 4 times as much can do. I guess that if you can get a good one by luck of the draw you could also get a bad one the same way. But even so, I haven't heard or read about any Hi Point owner badmouthing his gun. I have all the handguns I need, but I would like to try out one of those butt-ugly but supposed-to-be accurate and reliable Hi Point carbines chambered for .45 ACP. If I'm ever gonna get one I guess it better be soon, I'm sure Obama will try his dead level best to keep me, or anyone else for that matter, from ever laying hands on one.

115 posted on 09/23/2013 10:01:30 PM PDT by epow ( "OOPS" is not in God's vocabulary.)
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To: Innovative

This from a paper in the UK...next time you guys come crying to the US for guns and ammo...we should just tell you all to go jump. The heck with ya.


116 posted on 09/23/2013 10:20:08 PM PDT by Conservative4Ever (I'm going Galt)
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To: Innovative
Shouldn't the World Intervene?

Yeah. Give that a try.

117 posted on 09/23/2013 10:22:17 PM PDT by Washi (She was Hannah Montana when Bush was president. Thanks a lot Barack Obama! :))
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To: cuban leaf

I have to admit it is pretty funny. There is a lot of hubris here, we keep running around bombing other countries.
Quite well done, tongue in cheek...though he may want to watch his own back before long with the increasing muslim population in UK.


118 posted on 09/23/2013 11:05:32 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: epow

Yeah, the warranty is the best feature of the High-Point as you will probably need it.

But for an inexpensive, ugly gun, it does it’s job.

Just be sure to put several hundred rounds thru it to insure proper functionality before trusting it with your life.


119 posted on 09/23/2013 11:16:47 PM PDT by Rodney Dangerfield (Ask the MSM about Christopher Newsom and Channon Christian. Observe the subsequent blank stares.)
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To: All

No one in the media has the courage to state the obvious: Less than 5% of the US Population is responsible for 50%+ of violent crime in the US

http://colorofcrime.com/colorofcrime2005.html


120 posted on 09/24/2013 12:04:47 AM PDT by Rodney Dangerfield (Ask the MSM about Christopher Newsom and Channon Christian. Observe the subsequent blank stares.)
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