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Obamacare Shutdown Showdown: 2013 Is Not 1995, and Ted Cruz Can Win
Pajamas Media ^ | 09/23/2013 | Bryan Preston

Posted on 09/23/2013 8:41:38 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 09/23/2013 8:41:38 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The GOP needs to worry about continuing down the wrong path they took with Juan and Romney.


2 posted on 09/23/2013 8:45:26 AM PDT by Paladin2 (h)
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To: SeekAndFind

Voice of reason, thanks. I heard very recently was intimating that the only reason Bob Dole lost to Clinton was the govt. shutdown! We are in very different times and Cruz recognizes the need to rally those with principles who see the cliff we are heading towards. Cruz is also thinking strategically, and is light years ahead of the GOP lightweight naysayers.


3 posted on 09/23/2013 8:45:57 AM PDT by binreadin
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Scared money doesn’t win!


4 posted on 09/23/2013 8:52:55 AM PDT by bennowens
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To: binreadin

If Dole lost d/t the govt shutdown it’s not well recognized, but if so it would have been due to his APOLPOGY for the shut down.

GOPe doesn’t get that the apology capitulation, bowing to the power of the media, and especially, comfortable conservative pundits.

Sen Cruz does get it. He doesn’t blink nor apologize for his views. He doesn’t now to the media. He is a way out in front of them in a different zone.


5 posted on 09/23/2013 8:55:51 AM PDT by stanne
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To: SeekAndFind

Western Journalism website apparently has uncovered a major reason why even Republicans are now not so gung-ho about repealing Obamacare. The bill is so packed with lobbyist kickbacks and payouts - not only to pass it but to implement it - that they stand to make untold billions off of government attempts to get the law running. The lobbyists who wrote the bill have apparently hedged their bets, and have probably started promising untold campaign dollars to a number of Republicans to resist repeal. It’s always Follow The Money. It’s a fact that there will be a small number of select people making untold profits off of taxpayers and deficit financing to implement the law. And evidently a lot of Progressive Republicans have wormed their way onto one of the Obamacare Special Interest Teats to suck.


6 posted on 09/23/2013 9:01:29 AM PDT by antonico
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To: SeekAndFind

The Republicans did not “lose” in 1995. They managed to take the initiative away from Billy Jeff entirely, including the balancing of the budget (wrongly attributed to the Former Occupant of the Oval Office, 1993-2001), welfare reform, and balance of business expansion against regulation and taxation.

The Republicans went on to shoot themselves in the foot in 1996 by agreeing it was “Dole’s turn” for the nomination, and by not pulling out ALL the stops in the prosecution of the treasonous villain in the Oval Office, not for his indiscretions with an intern, but for giving away secrets and concessions to the Red Chinese, for not vigorously going after the new enemy of the Republic, militant Islam, and for turning loose a lot of outright criminals with very valuable contracts upon the Treasury.

And for not stripping George Soros of his immunity and prosecuting him separately for his funding of these same centers of mischief.


7 posted on 09/23/2013 9:02:10 AM PDT by alloysteel (Those who deny natural climate change are forever doomed to stupidity. AGW is a LIE.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yeah, Ted Cruz can be president of the North American Union, but not the United States.


8 posted on 09/23/2013 9:03:17 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: binreadin

Bob Dole was an old cripple running against a fresh young good looking man with ideas and a great talent for public speaking.

The fact that he was a decorated Veteran did not help him as it should have, but he was another Republican who was chosen because it was his turn, and not because he could win.


9 posted on 09/23/2013 9:06:02 AM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is all philosophical.

I have yet to hear a coherent theory for how the Republicans, a minority in the US Senate will get the House bill that includes defunding of Obamacare passed by the Senate, and how they will overcome an Obama veto.

Anyone?


10 posted on 09/23/2013 9:07:49 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: SeekAndFind

Had Fox news on and Cornyn say he will support the house bill. Whatever that means.

Grahma was on and seemed to support it too....for what thats worth.


11 posted on 09/23/2013 9:12:39 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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It means they will support cloture so funding can be returned to the bill.


12 posted on 09/23/2013 9:17:53 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: SeekAndFind; Varmint Al; BlatherNaut; KateUTWS; onyx; freedom1st; upsdriver; DefeatCorruption; ...

Ted Cruz Ping!

Let me know if you want on/off this ping list.

Please beware, this is a high-volume ping list!


13 posted on 09/23/2013 9:18:39 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: antonico
Western Journalism website apparently has uncovered a major reason why even Republicans are now not so gung-ho about repealing Obamacare. The bill is so packed with lobbyist kickbacks and payouts - not only to pass it but to implement it - that they stand to make untold billions off of government attempts to get the law running. The lobbyists who wrote the bill have apparently hedged their bets, and have probably started promising untold campaign dollars to a number of Republicans to resist repeal. It’s always Follow The Money. It’s a fact that there will be a small number of select people making untold profits off of taxpayers and deficit financing to implement the law. And evidently a lot of Progressive Republicans have wormed their way onto one of the Obamacare Special Interest Teats to suck.

Do you have a link to that article?
14 posted on 09/23/2013 9:20:04 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

HMMmmmmmm. Thanks. I should have know it was BS coming from Cornyn. Ill keep making my calls and sending emails.


15 posted on 09/23/2013 9:21:23 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
CALL/FAX YOUR REPUBLICAN REPS!! Tell them to...

"OPPOSE CLOTURE on Dingy Harry's 0bamaCare Funding vote - not to even let it come up for a vote, OR YOU ARE VOTING WITH DEMOCRATS TO FUND 0CARE".

16 posted on 09/23/2013 9:25:05 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: bigbob

Of course, Obama will not sign a bill that defunds Obamacare.

However, keeping the pressure on could get result in a negotiated year delay in the individual mandate and the exchanges, buying time. I’d take it for a start.


17 posted on 09/23/2013 9:27:04 AM PDT by dan on the right
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To: SeekAndFind

The 1995 shutdown generated a pizza, a thong, and a blue dress.


18 posted on 09/23/2013 9:42:02 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: binreadin

Dole had huge negatives, not the least of which was the bitch he was married too. As head of the Red Cross Elisabeth Dole was in your face defiant when the Red cross shenanigans in the wake of the Oklahoma City bombing came to light. Her behavior was not forgotten although Bob did barely manage to carry Oklahoma in spite of it.

It was a bitter campaign with a piss poor candidate who had never met a tax increase he didn’t like.


19 posted on 09/23/2013 9:54:59 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: binreadin

You bet, we can win. the future of America is riding on this issue. Folks....kill Obamacare right now....TODAY!!! You all know what to do.....sign & endorse the Lee/Cruz Defund Obamacare Petition right now...immediately, if notsooner, like TODAY!!! Call all thos RINO, weak sister Republicans and give some badly needed backbone and courage!!!! Onward to VICTORY!!! Screw Harry Reid and Obama!!!

(WWW.DONTFUNDOBAMACARE.COM)


20 posted on 09/23/2013 10:09:47 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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