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To: betty boop; marron; Alamo-Girl; tacticalogic; BroJoeK

“One of the things that make the arguments about evolution so bitter, I think, is that both sides of the debate seem to think the existence and godship of the Creator God is in play. It isn’t”

Spirited: Richard Weaver called his book, “Ideas have Consequences” because he understood that ideas, being of the unseen dimension, are not equal, some are good and some are like seeds that when taken into a mind eventually produce bad fruit. Even evil fruit.

I am of like mind with Weaver. Thus to me the real danger resides in the unseen realm of ideas, conceptions, presuppositions, etc. Though entirely unseen, ideas like evolution are like slippery slopes that can cause one to unwittingly fall away from God rather than find Him. Ideas do indeed have consequences.


508 posted on 10/17/2013 10:56:58 AM PDT by spirited irish
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To: spirited irish
Thus to me the real danger resides in the unseen realm of ideas, conceptions, presuppositions, etc. Though entirely unseen, ideas like evolution are like slippery slopes that can cause one to unwittingly fall away from God rather than find Him. Ideas do indeed have consequences.

To me the real danger lies in the notion that you can save people by controlling the ideas they're allowed to have. The means to accomplishe that will be more horrific than whatever the consequences of the ideas might have been.

510 posted on 10/17/2013 11:09:48 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: spirited irish

Truly said, dear spirited irish, ideas have consequences.


538 posted on 10/17/2013 8:58:12 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: spirited irish; Alamo-Girl; betty boop
spirited irish to betty boop: "Thus to me the real danger resides in the unseen realm of ideas, conceptions, presuppositions, etc.
Though entirely unseen, ideas like evolution are like slippery slopes that can cause one to unwittingly fall away from God rather than find Him.
Ideas do indeed have consequences."

FRiend, there are a thousand ways (or a thousand times a thousand ways) to "fall away from God", of which scientific theories like evolution are only one.
Indeed, the act of "finding God" is first and foremost an act of will and knowledge: you need both how and where to look.
The closest analogies I've ever seen are these -- how long does it take you to see the large angels in this picture?

So science is just one more picture through which we must look to find what we seek.

730 posted on 10/25/2013 3:06:59 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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