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GarySpFc: "Have you forgotten Colossians 2:9?
You have denied this passage emphatically states Jesus is fully God (Deity).
You failed miserably in attempting to equate the passage with Eph. 3:19."

But, of course, it doesn't say that.
It speaks of "fullness" in that same sense as Ephesians 3:19.
In one verse "fullness" applies to Jesus, in the other to all Christians.
I've said, if you wish to believe that means Jesus was God Himself, then fine, go ahead, I don't object.
However, I do think a more consistent application of the word "fullness" would suggest something like filled with the spirit of God -- something that can apply to both Jesus and Christians.

GarySpFc: "Furthermore, in the attempt you have revealed yourself as an Arian, and hiding behind that mask is a Jehovah Witness."

Shear fantasy on your part.
Yes, I do admire Jehovah's Witnesses, because they were thrown, by choice, into the Nazi concentration camps, and many died there when, unlike Jews & others, all it would take for their release was to deny their own faith.
So they suffered as Christ suffered, and I give them huge credit for that.

But the truth of this matter is that I don't know a single Jehovah's Witness personally.
My real purpose here is to represent and defend -- to the best of my ability -- the religious views of many Founding Fathers, and others similar.
I am here to ask you to show them forbearance and respect.

I should also take note of your use of the word "Arian", since to my knowledge it's the first time anyone on this thread besides myself has used it.
Indeed, so far, Ms irish has lumped all such ideas together and mis-labeled them "Gnosticism" -- the "Damnable Heresy" source of this thread.

Historically, Christian-Arianism was the opposite of Christian-Gnosticism.
If we can begin here to recognize them as two separate "heresies", that would be a start...

I am here to ask you to show them forbearance and respect.

***Such a thing is too much to ask from God Himself, clad in human flesh. Jesus called false teachers like you ‘sons of satan’ but you would ask FReepers for their forbearance and respect. You ask more of FReepers than God expected of Himself. You are properly labelled a God damned heretic.

GarySpFc: "Have you forgotten Colossians 2:9?
You have denied this passage emphatically states Jesus is fully God (Deity). You failed miserably in attempting to equate the passage with Eph. 3:19."
But, of course, it doesn't say that.
It speaks of "fullness" in that same sense as Ephesians 3:19.
In one verse "fullness" applies to Jesus, in the other to all Christians.
I've said, if you wish to believe that means Jesus was God Himself, then fine, go ahead, I don't object.
However, I do think a more consistent application of the word "fullness" would suggest something like filled with the spirit of God -- something that can apply to both Jesus and Christians.

Hereis an article I doubt you will want to read. http://carm.org/christianity/christian-doctrine/col-29-and-eph-319

One must be careful and avoid Imethinkitus, when dealing with God's Word.