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To: BroJoeK
All of those men are considered Christians, yet none (so far as I know) ever expressed a belief in full-blown Trinitarian theology.

No they just belonged to churches which confessed the Trinity. So again the issue of the secret life. I would quit using the Masons as an argument. You can't provide evidence any of those men were practicing Masons and could have just gone to the lodge for a nice meal and political connections.

2,768 posted on 01/03/2014 10:40:26 AM PST by redleghunter
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To: redleghunter
redleghunter: "No they just belonged to churches which confessed the Trinity.
So again the issue of the secret life.
I would quit using the Masons as an argument.
You can't provide evidence any of those men were practicing Masons and could have just gone to the lodge for a nice meal and political connections."

We can only go by what the historical record tells us, and that certainly includes Freemasonry for a large number of Founders, including Washington himself.
Clearly and emphatically, Washington did not consider Freemasonry as contrary to his Christian beliefs, and the record we have on those beliefs shows:

  1. Frequent praise of "Providence" for protecting the United States.
  2. Occasional mention of Jesus in formal prayers, but not in his correspondence.
  3. No record of any distinct Trinitarian language.
  4. While Washington regularly attended church services of various denominations, he is said to have usually, or always, refused communion.

Therefore, I consider my statements on Washington's Christianity accurate: he was influenced to some degree by ideas from Enlightenment deism/theism and/or Freemasonry.
If that makes Washington, in redleghunter's mind, a "God Damned Heretic", then what does it make acknowledged Unitarians like the John Adams' (father & son) and recognized deistics like Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin and James Madison?

I am here to request that you treat those men, and their religious ideas with forbearance and respect, especially on Free Republic's News/Activism forum.

2,840 posted on 01/05/2014 2:34:27 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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