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To: BroJoeK
First, I am not your friend.

This would make them, in Kevmo's words, "God Damned Heretics", and that is why I am here to defend them.
With which part do you disagree?

Secondly, I disagree with almost everything you have written. That the Founding Fathers were in the main deeply committed Christians, and not Deists or theistic rationalists I have no doubt, after having spent many years studying their lives and collecting their quotes. That said, it is your views which we find to be anti-Christian, and the Funding Fathers are not on trial here.

"The Hand of providence has been so conspicuous in all this, that he must be worse than an infidel that lacks faith, and more than wicked, that has not gratitude enough to acknowledge his obligations." George Washington's letter of August 20, 1778 to Brig. General Thomas Nelson

"Almighty and eternal Lord God, the great Creator of heaven and earth, and the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ; look down from heaven in pity and compassion upon me Thy servant, who humbly prorate myself before Thee." George Washington's prayer at Valley Forge

"No people can be bound to acknowledge and adore the invisible hand which conducts the affairs of men more than the people of the United States. Every step by which they have advanced to the character of an independent nation seems to have been distinguished by some token of providential agency...We ought to be no less persuaded that the propitious smiles of heaven cannot be expected on a nation that disregards the eternal rules of order and right, which heaven itself has ordained." -- George Washington in his Inaugural Address, April 30, 1789

"I have carefully examined the evidences of the Christian religion, and if I was sitting as a juror upon its authenticity I would unhesitatingly give my verdict in its favor. I can prove its truth as clearly as any proposition ever submitted to the mind of man.". Alexander Hamilton

After Mr. Hamilton was fatally wounded in a duel with Aaron Burr, he called for the Episcopal minister, Dr. John Mason, and requested to partake in the Lord's Supper. Dr. Mason declined to do so because his church had a principle "never to administer the Lord's Supper privately to any person under any circumstances." However, Dr. Mason also took the opportunity to explain to Mr. Hamilton that the Lord's Supper is not a requirement for salvation and proceeded to explain the plan of salvation in clear detail. Mr. Hamilton assured Dr. Mason that he had not requested the Lord's Supper as a means of obtaining heaven, and he gave the following testimony of his salvation:
"I have a tender reliance on the mercy of the Almighty, through the merits of the Lord Jesus Christ." Alexander Hamilton

2,707 posted on 01/02/2014 6:03:04 AM PST by GarySpFc (We are saved by the precious blood of the God-man.)
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To: GarySpFc; tacticalogic
GarySpFc: "First, I am not your friend."

Reading comprehension is important on Free Republic, don't you know?
The word "FRiend" is a term of respect from a fellow FReeper.
We are, after all, on the same political team, this is a News/Activism thread, and that's what "FRiend" is intended to remind you of.
If you reject such FRiendship, you also reject a large number of fellow FReepers, at which point the difficulty of winning in politics only grows.

GarySpFc: "Secondly, I disagree with almost everything you have written.
That the Founding Fathers were in the main deeply committed Christians, and not Deists or theistic rationalists I have no doubt, after having spent many years studying their lives and collecting their quotes.
That said, it is your views which we find to be anti-Christian, and the Funding Fathers are not on trial here.
***Posts several quotes to prove point*** "

And yet, since my views are quite similar to many Founders, all the condemnations you heap on yours truly, BroJoeK, also apply to them, and all the Christianity you've discovered in Founders' beliefs also applies to me.

That's why your Founding Father quotes confirm what I've been saying here all-along, and also reflect my personal beliefs.
And yet, our Founders -- in your mind -- are faithful Christians, while I -- in your mind -- am a "God Damned Heretic".

So, there seems to me a problem going on inside your mind, dear FRiend.

2,736 posted on 01/03/2014 3:35:31 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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