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To: GarySpFc
GarySpFc: "John was clearly stating Jesus was the UNIQUE Son of God, deity from deity."

FRiend, posters here like Kevmo and spirited irish accuse yours truly of being a "God Damned Heretic" based on their assertions that I have "denied the divinity/deity of Christ".
But the truth is, I haven't done that, not ever.
Instead, I've fully affirmed what the NT clearly says about Jesus -- Son of God, sent by God to be our Messiah/Christ/Savior.

What the New Testament does not give us is explicit Trinitarian language saying that Jesus is God Himself.
That idea took centuries of theological noodling to arrive at, and even then, many did not agree -- and suffered for it.

In this particular example, your idea that Jesus was God's unique Son is fully consistent with John's gospel and indeed the entire New Testament.
But it contains no hint of a suggestion that Jesus was God Himself.

2,593 posted on 12/30/2013 12:26:11 PM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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It’s starting to look more and more like the JW heresy.


2,612 posted on 12/30/2013 3:52:56 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: BroJoeK
What the New Testament does not give us is explicit Trinitarian language saying that Jesus is God Himself..

On the contrary, Jesus even claimed to forgive sins, for which He was charged with blasphemy (Mk 2:5–7), because He was fully aware only God can forgive sin.
In perhaps the clearest indication of His claims about Himself, when the high priest asked Jesus if He was the Christ, the Son of God, Jesus plainly declared that He was. Then He further asserted that He was also the Son of Man who would coreign on God’s throne and come on the clouds in judgment. The high priest pronounced these claims blasphemy (Mk 14:61–64). Judgment is reserved for God alone.

2,635 posted on 12/30/2013 10:36:19 PM PST by GarySpFc (We are saved by the precious blood of the God-man.)
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