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To: MHGinTN; GarySpFc; tacticalogic; spirited irish; betty boop; Alamo-Girl
MHGinTN quoting John 14:9: "Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father."

MHGinTN: "What Jesus had related to Philip was the truth that the entirety of what the disciples could sense of the multi-dimensional God was what they could sense in Jesus."

At this point we are into some very fine theological hair-splitting, about which much speculation has been written.
But the bottom line is suggested here, even in your words: Jesus is not necessarily claiming to be God Himself.

What Jesus certainly did call himself is: Son of God, Christ/Messiah, all in the traditional Old Testament senses of those words.

No Jew, then or now, could ever claim to be God Himself.

The necessity for proclaiming Jesus "God the Son" of the triune God-head, arises out of much-later challenges from Greek philosophy, and if I dare say this: Roman Empire politics.

2,448 posted on 12/29/2013 10:00:24 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: BroJoeK; MHGinTN; GarySpFc; tacticalogic; spirited irish; Alamo-Girl; YHAOS; hosepipe
I believe they deserve both fair hearings and respectful treatment here on Free Republic.... Do you agree?

Absolutely not. Why should I?

2,479 posted on 12/29/2013 1:45:23 PM PST by betty boop
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To: BroJoeK; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; Whosoever

The necessity for proclaiming Jesus “God the Son” of the triune God-head, arises out of much-later challenges from Greek philosophy, and if I dare say this: Roman Empire politics.


NOT SO... Me, You, Jesus, Angels(good and bad) even Satan are Sons of God... men/women, good/bad, smart/dumb..
Not sexually/carnally but Creatively..

(A)IF indeed God created us all... (B)IF NOT then that is another narrative..
I’m going with “A”..

Is Jesus the Messiah?... I would say Jesus is “A” Messiah..
He said; “Pick up YOUR Cross and follow me”.. <<— he may have been serious..

Some do, many do NOT... they deny their Sonship..

Is Jesus God?... or is God Jesus?... Who cares?...
What is.... “IS”....... What isn’t.............. ISN’T...


2,494 posted on 12/29/2013 3:32:26 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: BroJoeK

But the bottom line is suggested here, even in your words: Jesus is not necessarily claiming to be God Himself.
***Such a “suggestion” is a false teaching, a heresy properly condemned by Jesus Who would call you a son of the devil.


2,508 posted on 12/29/2013 4:26:35 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: redleghunter; YHAOS

Srating to sound like JW cult. What do you think?

Thanks to redleghunter for this link

http://www.spiritual-research-network.com/f/falseviewsofjesus_compilationlist.pdf


2,530 posted on 12/29/2013 6:33:06 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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