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To: betty boop; spirited irish; tacticalogic; Kevmo
betty boop: "Well jeepers, dear BroJoeK, I guess we need to start off with a definition of "substance," a philosophical term not much heard of in "science." "

Sorry for that senior moment, really, I've studied these matters -- at least somewhat -- and "get" what it's all about.
More important, when needed, I know where to go for precise data.

My basic attitude toward all that theological fantasizing is the same as Rhett Butler's, at the very end, after the war and everything is lost: "Frankly my dear..."

I prefer to think that the Bible means what it says, and says what it means, and where the meanings are not clear, that's because they were not intended to be clear, and we are free to interpret them according to our best judgments.
You can interpret them as you see them...

So, if poor benighted souls, like our own Kevmo, imagine this or that interpretation to be "damnable heresy", that is his problem, it's a theological sickness which desperately needs treatment, but in the final analysis, as the man said, "Frankly, my dear...".

Our Founding Fathers were, generally, deistic-Freemason-Unitarian Christians, and that is the religious viewpoint I am here to defend -- regardless of how insanely Kevmo or anybody else may howl about it.

2,049 posted on 12/23/2013 3:51:15 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: BroJoeK

I prefer to think that the Bible means what it says,
***Hogwash. John 1:1 The Word was God. John1:14 The Word became flesh and we beheld His glory, the the glory of the one and only Son,.... This and other scriptures you call “Proof Texts” and deny their simple meaning because you are pushing the heresy of denying the Deity of Christ.

and says what it means, and where the meanings are not clear, that’s because they were not intended to be clear
***Other than the fact that you’ve been twisting what the bible says and pushing heretical teachings onto this thread, that’s a very noble sentiment.


2,050 posted on 12/23/2013 3:59:35 AM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: BroJoeK
Our Founding Fathers were, generally, deistic-Freemason-Unitarian Christians

And this one thinks he's Jean Dixon and knows dead men better than they know themselves.

Love Christ. Avoid His followers.

2,052 posted on 12/23/2013 4:06:42 AM PST by Anton.Rutter
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