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To: Kevmo; spirited irish; YHAOS; tacticalogic; betty boop
Kevmo: "***Earlier you said that the resurrection is well attested.
So for you to say that this was evidence of “some form” of divinity leads normal people to ask why you would think He is Divine, but did not claim equality with God.
Your position is heresy."

FRiend, this is not difficult: the New Testament is chock full of clear statements that Jesus is Messiah, Christ, Son of Man and Son of God, along with some other metaphorical terms.
In no place does the NT indisputably say: "Jesus is God".
Indeed, terms like "God the Son", "God the Holy Spirit" and "Trinity" are found nowhere in the Bible.
Those are all theological terms invented long after the fact by people who believed that "Son of God" was not glorification enough.

Many of our Founders were Unitarian-leaning and did not accept Trinitarian theology, and that is why I am here defending their religious beliefs.

So why do you, Kevmo, condemn them?

Kevmo: "***Read John1:1 and 1:14.
Then read my article, and perhaps many of the thousands of articles on apologetics and the incarnation.
You’re woefully and willfully ignorant, and pushing heresy at the same time."

None of those "proof-texts" are indisputable.
All can be and have been interpreted differently, as we've seen in this thread with a few random examples.
So your beliefs are 100% theological, they have 0% to do with actual history.

The "heresy" that you seem so eager to stone/burn/crucify for is what gave us our Declaration of Independence and Constitution.

That's why I'm here defending it and them.

1,943 posted on 12/21/2013 9:30:36 PM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: BroJoeK

None of those “proof-texts” are indisputable.
***Sure they are, to anyone who believes in Jesus and isn’t pushing the heresy of the denial of His deity. You HAVE to deny ALL those so-called proof texts in order to push your ridiculous and unfounded heresy. Jesus warned against false teachers like yourself, calling you sons of the devil, vipers, snakes, wolves in sheep’s clothing. As the title of this thread says, it is a damnable heresy. That means that God DAMNS You for pushing such heresy. You are legitimately labelled a God Damned Heretic.


1,983 posted on 12/22/2013 1:15:13 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: BroJoeK

In no place does the NT indisputably say: “Jesus is God”.
***That’s because when it does say it, you dispute it. That is the way of the heretic.


1,993 posted on 12/22/2013 1:42:05 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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