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YHAOS: “What powerful ROMAN declined to put the Christ to death, leaving His fate in the hands of a mob?”

FRiend, there’s no doubt about what the New Testament says, and that it works hard to let Pontius Pilate off the hook for crucifying Jesus.
***Then why do you heretics try to remove it from the historical record? Because you’re idealogy drives you to unrealistic historical viewpoints.

There’s no doubt that all four Gospel writers want to blame the “crowd”
***I have plenty of doubt. THey’re simply telling it like it was, recording what they saw. If you have something that counteracts that historical record, bring it on. But you don’t, all you have is your own conjecture. And your idealogy, driven by heresy.

and more specifically the Jewish leaders, not their Roman ruler, for Christ’s death.
***By all means, heretic, bring on the evidence. If the gospels are historically accurate, don’t throw them under the bus.

That is not a matter of debate, and if the Bible’s authority is all that interests you, then the subject is closed, period.
***I’m interested in all historical records, but you have repeatedly said I wasn’t, even though multiple times I’ve given you quick links to where I posted such things. You simply don’t like it because it doesn’t conform to your heresy.

But there are non-biblical historical records which paint a much different portrait of Pontius Pilate,
***Bowlsheet. The records you’ve posted so far agree with the gospels’ assessment of Pilate’s lack of character.

and if we give them credence, then it puts the whole “trial” scene in a very different light.
***Again, bowlsheet. You keep posting this over and over and you’re still wrong, heretic.

We start with the claim that — far from being the caring, sensitive philosophical administrator the NT tells us —
***Proven wrong, over and over again but you keep posting it. Now it is at the point where this is simply a lie. You are a liar. A liar, a troll, and a heretic.

Pilate was actually a cruel, callous & inflexible dictator, who brutalized the citizenry & routinely executed people without trials.
***So it’s not a stretch that he’d allow Jesus to be crucified right after he washes his hands of the whole affair. And significantly, you have produced ZERO evidence against Pilate holding Jesus innocent of rebellion.

Indeed, Josephus reported an incident where Pilate hid his own agents in a crowd he was addressing, then unleashed them to attack & murder after the crowd did not follow Pilate’s demands.
***Sounds in agreement with the gospel description of this bloodthirsty soul. But heretics like you try to change it into something else.

So Pilate was not a man easily cowed by a mob.
***Wow, after all this, you finally make a good point. Too bad your heresy has been exposed. It’s simple to reconcile, really: Pilate learned from his experience.

And in the end his cruelty got Pilate fired from his job.
***Good.

All this suggests
***Only to those interested in promoting heresy.

the scene of Pilate publically washing his hands is not exactly what it appears.
***Then the burden of proof is on you. All the HISTORICAL evidence is in agreement, but heretics like you like to argue against the gospel record accounts when it suits them.

And the Gospel writers themselves provide clues that Pilate was not such an innocent bystander, the chief one being the sign he personally wrote calling Jesus “King of the Jews”.
***Over and over and over again, troll. Your point has been proven wrong, heretic.

That sign confirms
***No it doesn’t, heretic.

that Pilate did not just “allow” crucifixion, but ordered it, and for the obvious reason of rebellion.
***It’s an interesting theory but there’s no historical account which supports it. It is simply your own conjecture, and since you’re a proven heretic, it’s worthless.

By the way, for those who like to appeal to “historians”, this is the accepted historical view of the matter.
***bowlsheet, bowlsheet, bowlsheet. The only historians who accept the views you’ve been pushing are those with axes to grind, heretic.