To: Kevmo; BroJoeK; tacticalogic
BroJoeK:
Again, we are not disputing facts of history, but their interpretation, (referring to Post #1727):
What powerful ROMAN declined to put the Christ to death and left His fate in the hands of a mob?
Who asked (rhetorically we must think), Why, what evil hath he done?
Who surrendered his judgment to the will of the Sanhedrin when he took water and washed his hands before the multitude, saying I am innocent of the blood of this just person; see ye to it.
Indeed, it is all but a matter of interpretation.
1,793 posted on
12/19/2013 4:57:19 PM PST by
YHAOS
To: YHAOS
I’m not aware of any historical evidence that contradicts what you just wrote. There is basically no evidence that Jesus was killed by the romans for rebellion. There’s a lot of CONJECTURE, but no historical evidence. And in order to accommodate such a conjecture, you have to throw out known good reliable historical evidence.
1,795 posted on
12/19/2013 5:01:51 PM PST by
Kevmo
("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
To: YHAOS; Kevmo; BroJoeK
Indeed, it is all but a matter of interpretation. A scientist would call it a "theory".
To: YHAOS; Kevmo
YHAOS:
"Who surrendered his judgment to the will of the Sanhedrin when he took water and washed his hands before the multitude, saying I am innocent of the blood of this just person; see ye to it. " FRiend, as we've now discussed at length with Kevmo, there are two matters at work here:
- Even though the Gospel writers do everything possible to make it look as if Pilate did not order Jesus crucified, in historical fact, he did, period.
Jews themselves never crucified anybody.
Pilate's reasons are therefore important, and they certainly include the plaque on Jesus' cross: "King of the Jews".
Officially, Jesus was crucified for rebellion.
- The contemporary non-biblical historical record on Pilate paints a very different picture from the Gospels.
According to that record, Pilate was callous, cruel and indifferent to the suffering of his Jewish subjects, so much so that he was eventually fired from his job for it.
Modern historians look at this data and conclude there were very different attitudes toward Romans by Christians & Jews, and this is reflected in their accounts of Pilate.
Regardless, the historical fact remains that only Pilate could order a crucifixion, and that only for a capital offense under Roman law, such as rebellion, or claiming to be "King of the Jews".
1,830 posted on
12/19/2013 7:58:14 PM PST by
BroJoeK
(a little historical perspective....)
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