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To: BroJoeK

“So far as I can tell, there are no “theistic naturalists” posting on this thread, and you do us a disservice to falsely accuse us of it.”

Spirited: As you have repeatedly championed one-dimensional naturalism and evolution, then a naturalist you are.


1,288 posted on 11/26/2013 1:54:09 PM PST by spirited irish
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To: spirited irish
spirited irish: "As you have repeatedly championed one-dimensional naturalism and evolution, then a naturalist you are."

Sorry, my mistake, confusing "theistic naturalism" with "philosophical naturalism" or "metaphysical naturalism".
The first is not the same thing as the others.
But regardless, none of them are what we've discussed here.

All of "science" by the very definition of the word is "naturalism", but specifically "methodological naturalism" which simply means: a working assumption of natural explanations for natural processes.

"Methodological naturalism" does not imply either atheism or some weird tree-hugger religion.
It simply means that: regardless of our religious faith, we will look scientifically for natural explanations for natural processes.

So, you cannot be a scientist without being a methodological naturalist.
But a scientist can hold whatever religious beliefs she/he choses.

Ms irish, if you oppose methodological naturalism, then you oppose all of western civilization's scientific enterprise of the past 600+ years.
That would put you in the same category as some of our more notorious Islamic "fundamentalists".
Is that really where you want to be, FRiend?

1,297 posted on 11/26/2013 3:45:16 PM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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