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Did Ted Cruz Just Force Republicans Into A Government Shutdown They Don't Want?
Business Insider ^ | 09/18/2013 | Josh Barro

Posted on 09/18/2013 7:41:33 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Having tried and failed to sell restive conservatives on plans to keep the government open without picking a fight over Obamacare, it appears that House Majority Leader Eric Cantor is moving on to Plan C: Giving in to people like Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) who are insisting that any bill to keep the government open after Sept. 30 must defund Obamacare.

National Review's Robert Costa tweets:

House GOP sources confirm: House GOP WILL soon bring a CR to floor that also defunds, thus putting pressure on Cruz & co to get thru Senate — Robert Costa (@robertcostaNRO) September 17, 2013

House GOP ldrs basically saying, "Ok, Ted and conservative activists, if you think you can rally public behind this, get it thru Senate..." — Robert Costa (@robertcostaNRO) September 17, 2013

"... and if you can't, you're going to have to let us use another option. But we'll play along and try this--for now." — Robert Costa (@robertcostaNRO) September 17, 2013

I guess the idea is that House Republicans will open with a demand of defunding Obamacare and see if Senate Democrats agree to go along. (Spoiler alert: They won't.) The question is how long Republicans have to leave this demand out there until they've officially determined the strategy isn't going to work.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: defunding; obamacare; shutdown; tedcruz
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Well I for one am for immediately raising US taxes, on foreign-made products. That’s just my approach, but it would work.

For every action there's an equal and opposite reaction. That's true in physics, and in international trade.

As soon as we raise taxes on foreign made goods here, other countries will retaliate by raising taxes on American made goods.

That immediately puts us back to square one, with the added penalty of Americans now paying a punitive tax on imported goods they need and want.

Now what? It's our move.

81 posted on 09/20/2013 10:26:52 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Except we’ve already offshored so much, we no longer have to worry about that. We really don’t.

That is what I am saying.

For the entire last generation, all our businesses have been offshoring every American job possible.

Bring back American work.

Stop offshoring so much.

If we get in a “trade war” with anyone, it will only bring jobs home to America.

Everyone is selling out American jobs.

Democrats. Republicans. Everyone.


82 posted on 09/21/2013 5:28:33 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
If we get in a “trade war” with anyone, it will only bring jobs home to America.

If we get in a trade war with another country, American exports will be reduced. Any guess as to what that would do to American jobs?

You keep thinking that force is the way to bring the jobs home. I'm telling you, it's been tried before, and has never worked. You have to figure out a way to make this country a more attractive place to do business.

The potential for greater profits is the only thing that will bring the jobs back. Figure out how to do that, and you'll have the beginnings of a solution.

83 posted on 09/21/2013 8:02:17 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

The problem with your logic is, America since any previous trade issues has sent offshore a HUGE amount of what had previously been American manufacturing.

Massively, we have already torn down our own manufacturing.

That to me, is the major difference.

Previously America had always had a lot of manufacturing, and that had kept us from really playing hardball.

I think it’s time. Play hardball. Enough with this stupid de-industrialization of America.

Bring back US jobs, and manufacturing.

Now.


84 posted on 09/22/2013 7:24:57 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Bring back US jobs, and manufacturing. Now.

You seem to think that all that's required to bring US manufacturing back to these shores, is to simply demand it.

You can demand it until you're blue in the face, but nothing's going to change until you isolate the factors that have caused companies to make the choice to relocate overseas. Once done, see if you can figure out a way to make conditions in this country more attractive to manufacturing businesses.

Until you start talking about real world solutions to this issue, you're just barking at the moon.

85 posted on 09/22/2013 8:41:25 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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