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To: xzins
It is you who are confused about the issue. You are either natural. or You are MADE natural...naturalized.

Sorry Padre...........it's you that is in error.

This is why [Article II; Section I] differentiates between "Natural Born Citizen".....or "Citizen" (I won't say......."plain old" because some folks get upset at that).

Now....would you like to tell me which one of those definitions are the one's naturalized? One was defining folks born of the land prior to the ratification and after...... and the other one.....folks born of the land to parents also of the land....obviously after the ratification.

So according to you..... one of those definitions apply to folks that were naturalized as well. Which one....Padre?

[Article II; Section I U.S. Constitution]No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

667 posted on 09/01/2013 6:18:28 PM PDT by Diego1618 (Put "Ron" on the Rock!)
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To: Diego1618; xzins
This is why [Article II; Section I] differentiates between "Natural Born Citizen".....or "Citizen" (I won't say......."plain old" because some folks get upset at that).
Wait - no, it doesn't.

I see the problem now - you're looking at individual words while disregarding the context, cherry-picking nouns while ignoring the modifiers.

The emphasis isn't on "natural born citizen" and "citizen", as you claim:
[Article II; Section I U.S. Constitution]No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; (emphasis yours)
It's between natural born citizens and grandfathered citizens:
[Article II; Section I U.S. Constitution]No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; (emphasis mine)
That grandfather clause died, as an ongoing concern, sometime in the nineteenth century with the last person so covered. As they knew it would.

That leaves us not with the two types of people, as you claim - '"Natural Born Citizen".....or "Citizen"' - but one kind. No Person except a natural born Citizen shall be eligible to the Office of President. All American citizens at birth can aspire to the office.
695 posted on 09/02/2013 1:15:35 AM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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