Posted on 08/25/2013 7:24:55 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
Edited on 08/25/2013 7:26:09 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Sen. Ted Cruz (Tex.) is the hottest commodity in Republican politics these days, winning rave reviews everywhere he goes on the I
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Ted Cruz Ping!
If they love liberty they will...
Hey kinda early yet. What is his ‘vision thing’ to prosper the country?
Ted Cruz - 2016
Bump.
I’m getting mighty tired of “Republicans” (and Democrats) all sending every job they can to foreign competitors.
And yes, that is what is happening.
Meanwhile America is now 17 trillion dollars in debt, and that continues to get worse.
BRING BACK AMERICAN MANUFACTURING.
Now.
Not in 2016. Not in 2014.
Now.
Sunday, in the afternoon.
WaPo, will anyone read it?
great post! Loved it!
Ted Cruz is eligible to serve as a Senator. Sen. Ted Cruz is ineligible to serve in the Office of the President or Vice president. He needs to take responsibility and promptly quash speculation about his being a candidate for POTUS in 2016.
uh?
NO Cruz is eligible.
I hope he doesn’t run but if no other true conservative comes forth then let him run
how foolish to say he isn’t eligible
Ted Cruz - 2016
I would think that being so close to Canada and having Canadians visit often that they would accept Ted Cruise big time. Why not? What makes him any different than any other Canadian?
Ack, only 10.
Watch Ted run, 2016.
Please point out the relevant part of the US Constitution that supports your opinion of the meaning of "Natural Born" citizenship requirements.
The meaning of the term-of-art natural born Citizen has been addressed, and confirmed by the US Supreme Court. The idea that all persons who are a citizen at birth, are natural born citizens cannot possibly be accepted for the simple reason that NO part of the Constitution can be interpreted in such a way as to make any part of the Constitution irrelevant. What that means is that the Constitution MUST be interpreted in such a way that every word in relevant. The idea that citizen at birth equates to natural born citizen ignores the word natural. If the intention was otherwise, they would have simply said a born citizen, or a citizen at birth or born a citizen. So it is clear they intended something else. So - what does the word natural mean in the context of natural born citizen?
There are two types of law. There is positive law - this is man-made law, such as the Constitution, laws from Congress, state law, local ordinances, and so on. And then there is natural law - this is the law of nature, or the divine. An example would be when the founders wrote the Declaration of Independence, and stated :
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
That is a form of natural law. So, the term natural born citizen means EXACTLY what it says, a citizen at birth according to natural law.
OK - what is a citizen by natural law? Remember, a natural law is one that is unwritten. So a citizen by natural law, would be a citizen that would require no man made positive law to be a citizen. So, when is someone a citizen without need of any positive law? When they can be nothing else. Does that sound familiar? Ever heard someone answer a question with the word naturally, because the answer could be nothing else? Does Monday come after Sunday? Naturally! Who can be nothing other than a citizen at birth, and therefore requires no positive law?
There are 4 basic variables governing citizenship.
Maybe where a person is born shouldnt really matter. Ive seen many immigrants who are much more patriotic than natural born Americans. But there is a process to go thru if that is the case, and that process is the Amendment process. But that probably wouldnt go through. So what do they do? They simply ignore that part of the Constitution. The real danger is what part do they decide to ignore next?
'Natural Born Citizen' simply means, a person born a Citizen according to the law of nature.
What is important about the 'law of nature'? There is a legal term Jura naturæ sunt immutabilia - and it means, "The laws of nature are unchangeable". The Congress CAN NOT declare a person a 'Natural Born Citizen', because they CAN NOT change the definition, it's immutable.
The idea that Ted Cruz meets the NBC clause is ridiculous, Ted Cruz is a US citizen NOT by natural law, but by statutory law, as written in the Immigration and Nationality Act (either section 301, or section 320).
Just look at the titles of the chapters those sections are in! The title of the chapter section 301 is in - CHAPTER 1 -- NATIONALITY AT BIRTH AND BY COLLECTIVE NATURALIZATION. We know that Cruz was not considered a 'US National', he is a Citizen, so his citizenship would be from "COLLECTIVE NATURALIZATION". The title of the chapter containing section 320?
CHAPTER 2 -- NATIONALITY THROUGH NATURALIZATION, that says it all, all persons who are 'citizens at birth' through these sections, are citizens "THROUGH NATURALIZATION". Also, these are not really 'Citizens at birth', the are 'Citizens BY birth'. There is a BIG difference (and you will notice that Cruz 'spokespeople' will always say 'by birth'), persons who automatically acquire Citizenship via section 320, are not actually a US citizen until they move to the US and establish permanent residence.
That is why it was always clear that you must be born on US soil to be president, because ALL US citizens, born outside the US, even if a citizen at birth, are 'naturalized US citizens', and NOT 'natural born Citizens'.
If he wants to be “liked” he needs to go on Facebook.
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