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To: central_va

“Personally I don’t understand how they can be so wrapped up by events that ended 150 years ago, but I accept that there are those who are.”

Because the wrong that was committed then is responsible for the deterioration of the Constitution and has given birth to presidents like Barack Hussein Obama, whom you support by stupidly arguing otherwise.

As much as you want it to be about “because of losing” a war it has never been and never will be about that. It is about losing our country, which you support by stupidly arguing otherwise.


177 posted on 08/19/2013 6:36:27 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Lee'sGhost; rockrr; central_va; donmeaker
Lee'sGhost: "As much as you want it to be about “because of losing” a war it has never been and never will be about that.
It is about losing our country, which you support by stupidly arguing otherwise."

I'll certainly agree that there's some amount of stupidity on display here, but it's certainly not coming from rockrr, who's simply doing his level best to defend the truth against endless distortions and mockeries coming from... well, several sources.

So allow me to posit the first and greatest fundamental truth of political life:

It logically follows that to the degree you, your relatives and ancestors, were once Democrats then they & you are to blame for today's sorry state of affairs.

Now, when we ask the question: how long were Southerners Democrats?
The answer is, for all practical purposes, from the Founding of the Republic until very recent years -- about 200 years all told.

But how long have Southerners been solid Conservative Republicans?
Answer: since half of southern states voted for Zipper Clinton, both times, it's not even been 20 years!

Now, of course, everyone understands that Southerners have a long tradition of dominating in politics, of pushing their weight around more than their small numbers would otherwise allow (i.e., 3/5th rule), and of conveniently "forgetting" those parts of their past which no longer suit them (from slavery to Jim Crow to New Deal).

But FRiends, you won't get "off the hook" so easily here.
The only way we will ever forget about the truth of your past, is if you stop falsely accusing us regarding our pasts.

Somebody is being stupid here, but it's not rockrr.

226 posted on 08/20/2013 8:41:49 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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